This week Imogen Saunders and Douglas Guilfoyle have a (slightly echo-y) kitchen table conversation about Sarah Wambaugh, the world's preeminent expert on self-determination referendums in the League of Nations era, and what her story tells us about the forgotten women of international law. Recommendations: Portraits of Women in International Law (https://global.oup.com/academic/product/portraits-of-women-in-international-law-9780198868453?cc=au&lang=en&); Feminist Judgments in International Law (https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/feminist-judgments-in-international-law-9781509914456/).