Our two guests today make their first appearances on the “podcast of record”, and you might say after 120 plus episodes of Jonny Gould’s Jewish State, they’ve been a rather glaring omission.

They are two of British politics' biggest supporters of Israel and opponents of antisemitism.

The Right Honourable, Lord Eric Pickles and the Right Honourable, Joan Ryan are in conversation.

We focus on the future of Holocaust remembrance, including a serious attempt to get to the bottom of what actually went on in the only concentration camp built on British soil by Hitler, at Alderney in the Channel Islands.

We also discuss the UK government bill to quell the racist endeavours of BDS.

The Anglo-Jewish community owes a debt to those in our political class who stood up to the growing scourge of antisemitism which followed Jeremy Corbyn’s leadership of the Labour Party.

And typically, proof that the “oldest hatred” stands above party politics is the cooperation, even camaraderie, which exists right across party lines. Joan’s Labour, Eric’s Tory.

Once again, I handover the interview microphone for a deeper conversation between these two comrades.

The Rt Hon. Joan Ryan in conversation with Lord Eric Pickles is brought to you with Elnet UK, dedicated to strengthening relations between the UK, Europe and Israel based on shared democratic values and strategic interests.

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