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123: TMP vs. TWOK: The Conversational Kobayashi Maru
The Motion Picture vs. The Wrath of Khan.
When Star Trek left the television airwaves in 1969, there was a
void that was left in the hearts and minds of Trekkies around the
world. The Original Series "re-runs" and the 1973 Animated Series
tried to fill that void with varying degrees of success. But on May
25th, 1977, everything changed with the release of George Lucas’
STAR WARS. It created a shockwave in the film industry that
challenged the very nature of science fiction storytelling and the
projects that were being developed at that time, especially Star
Trek: Phase II - the grandiose production to bring Star Trek back
to television.
Many Trekkies believe that Phase II's evolution into Star Trek:
The Motion Picture was necessary to strike while the proverbial
"iron" was hot, and launch the film franchise through riding the
epic financial tidal wave and wake of Star Wars. Conversely, there
are also many who believe that the (arguably) most popular Star
Trek movie of all time is The Wrath of Khan because it was more
"profitable" as a film and because it has so totally permeated
global pop culture to this very day. So ... what IS the movie that
truly “saved” Star Trek and is this the "conversational" Kobayashi
Maru for the Chief and the Commodore?
Hosts
Norman C. Lao and Ken Tripp
Feature
Welcome to Standard Orbit! (00:01:41)
Entering the Chief’s Movie Zone (00:03:15)
The Spark that Set this Off (00:04:42)
Tripp-ed Up by Emotional Ties (00:09:03)
Memoirs of a 10-Year Old Commodore (00:15:12)
A Wise Use of Scale (00:19:14)
The Humbling of a Hero (00:27:57)
Finding Spock Again (00:36:26)
Counselor Disco Bones (00:41:32)
Differences by Design (00:46:33)
The V’Ger Sized Element in the Room (00:57:15)
By the Numbers (01:03:26)
Settling the Scores (01:10:41)
Thank You for Listening to Standard Orbit (01:15:06)
Production
C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer), Norman C. Lao (Executive
Producer), Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer), Charlynn Schmiedt
(Executive Producer), Ken Tripp (Editor and Associate Producer),
Renee Roberts (Associate Producer), Richard Rutledge (Associate
Producer), Richard Marquez (Production Manager), Will Nguyen
(Content Manager)
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The Motion Picture vs. The Wrath of Khan.
When Star Trek left the television airwaves in 1969, there was a
void that was left in the hearts and minds of Trekkies around the
world. The Original Series "re-runs" and the 1973 Animated Series
tried to fill that void with varying degrees of success. But on May
25th, 1977, everything changed with the release of George Lucas’
STAR WARS. It created a shockwave in the film industry that
challenged the very nature of science fiction storytelling and the
projects that were being developed at that time, especially Star
Trek: Phase II - the grandiose production to bring Star Trek back
to television.
Many Trekkies believe that Phase II's evolution into Star Trek:
The Motion Picture was necessary to strike while the proverbial
"iron" was hot, and launch the film franchise through riding the
epic financial tidal wave and wake of Star Wars. Conversely, there
are also many who believe that the (arguably) most popular Star
Trek movie of all time is The Wrath of Khan because it was more
"profitable" as a film and because it has so totally permeated
global pop culture to this very day. So ... what IS the movie that
truly “saved” Star Trek and is this the "conversational" Kobayashi
Maru for the Chief and the Commodore?
Hosts
Norman C. Lao and Ken Tripp
Feature
Welcome to Standard Orbit! (00:01:41)
Entering the Chief’s Movie Zone (00:03:15)
The Spark that Set this Off (00:04:42)
Tripp-ed Up by Emotional Ties (00:09:03)
Memoirs of a 10-Year Old Commodore (00:15:12)
A Wise Use of Scale (00:19:14)
The Humbling of a Hero (00:27:57)
Finding Spock Again (00:36:26)
Counselor Disco Bones (00:41:32)
Differences by Design (00:46:33)
The V’Ger Sized Element in the Room (00:57:15)
By the Numbers (01:03:26)
Settling the Scores (01:10:41)
Thank You for Listening to Standard Orbit (01:15:06)
Production
C Bryan Jones (Executive Producer), Norman C. Lao (Executive
Producer), Matthew Rushing (Executive Producer), Charlynn Schmiedt
(Executive Producer), Ken Tripp (Editor and Associate Producer),
Renee Roberts (Associate Producer), Richard Rutledge (Associate
Producer), Richard Marquez (Production Manager), Will Nguyen
(Content Manager)
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