Jessie Gender is a known YouTuber and commentator who deals with the nuance in the nerdy, focusing on LGBTQ issues (especially the transgender community), women, nonbinary and autistic people as well as other social and political issues through geek topics.

Both Jessie and Joey also happen to be Trekkies on the autism spectrum which gave this conversation an added layer of complexity.

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Host: Joey Ayoub  

Producer: Joey Ayoub  

Music: Rap and Revenge

Main theme design: Wenyi Geng

Sound editor: Joey Ayoub

Episode design: Joey Ayoub