For episode 208, Elia and Dana talk about Zahrani Mamdani's victory and what it could mean for all of us.

What we got into, in no particular order:

• Dana seeing Mamdani win as a Muslim-American (and Arab/Palestinian) who grew up in the aftermath of 9/11 / Mamdani’s Arabic-language campaign video (in Syrian Arabic - thank you Rama - except when talking to the cat, when he switched to Egyptian Arabic for some reason) and him saying أنا منكم واليكم at his victory speech

• Elia seeing Mamdani win as an Arab who’s never been to New York City but still felt the impact of the War on Terror growing up in Lebanon

• Both Elia and Dana being Mamdani’s age and how that’s f-ed up

• How Mamdani navigated questions about Israel / why we need to be better at making the our opponents face their own contradictions instead of falling in their trap

• The Far Right is not inevitable. It can be stopped. Billionaires are not inevitable. They can be stopped.

• Parallels to the UK with Zack Polanski and the rise of the Green Party

Mentions 

• Mamdani Created a Left-Liberal Coalition on Israel/Palestine by Peter Beinart

• The Far Right is Not Inevitable | The Fire These Times with Aurelien Mondon (ep. 163)
  

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.

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• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

• Dana is on Bluesky

• Elia is on Bluesky and Instagram

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.

Credits:

Dana El Kurd (host), Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics)

In this collaboration episode, host israa’ is joined with Jordan and Prince from The Dugout Podcast and Dr. Mohamed Abdou. We got together to talk about Malcolm X, his evolution over time, his commitment to the below, and the role and impact of Islam on his journey towards collective liberation. Along the way, we talk about Malcolm’s impact on our lives and our politics and share insights on how we think Malcolm would be showing up today. 

00:00 Introduction and Host Introductions

01:45 Personal Connections to Malcolm X

04:52 Malcolm X's Influence and Evolution

08:48 Reflections on Malcolm X's Teachings

11:31 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Relevance

19:39 Organizational Structures and Revolutionary Responsibility

29:19 Global Impact and Pan-Africanism

46:17 Evolving Governance and Lessons from the Zapatistas

48:08 Exploring Malcolm X's Intersectional Analysis

48:47 Malcolm X and James Baldwin: A Shared Journey

50:45 Decolonization and Internationalism

52:30 Contextualizing Malcolm X's Strategies

54:34 Malcolm X's Methodology and Ethics

58:38 Malcolm X's Legacy and Modern Implications

01:18:09 The Role of Spirituality and Self-Critique

01:29:20 Final Reflections on Malcolm X's Influence

Mohamed :

Dr. Mohamed Abdou is a Muslim anarchist scholar and organizer. He's a student of the muqawama (the resistance) and author of Islam and Anarchism: Relationships and Resonances (Pluto Press, 2022).  His work centers on Palestinian, Indigenous, Black, and people of colour liberation, and draws on the Indigenous Zapatista movement in Chiapas, Mexico, as well as his participation in the Egyptian uprisings of 2011. 

substack: https://drmohamedabdou.substack.com/

website: ⁠mabdou.net⁠. 

Twitter: @minuetinGmajor

 Instagram: @slightlydrifting

israa’ :

israa’ (they/them) is an activist scholar in a committed relationship with collective liberation. They are part of From the Periphery Media collective where they are hosts of The Mutual Aid Podcast, The Fire of these Times, and From the Periphery Podcast. They’re working towards building a world where all worlds fit through their activism and scholarship.

israa’ is on Bluesky and IG

Dugout

The Dugout is a Black anarchist podcast rooted in political education, decolonial thought/praxis, and deep community study. We tell stories, break down systems, and honor the voices of those building liberation from below. From interviews with Black Panthers and movement elders to media critiques and abolitionist strategy, each episode is a living contribution to Black radical traditions.

Stay connected with The Dugout! Follow us for updates, exclusive content, and more:

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How to Support Our Work:

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Credits:

israa' (host, producer), Elia Ayoub (episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

For episode 206, Dana El Kurd is joined by Pablo Abufom, translator, scientist, and organizer with the Coordinadora Por Palestina in Chile. We talk about the largest Palestinian diaspora population outside the Middle East, the limits of ethnic and national affinities, and what it means to organize against the backdrop of American hegemony.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.

If you're not a supporter yet, please consider doing so with only $5 a month on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery

For more:

• The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.

Credits:

Dana El Kurd (host), Elia Ayoub (producer, episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

Daniel joins Elia from what used to be the Warsaw Ghetto to talk about Gaza.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.

If you're not a supporter yet, please consider doing so with only $5 a month on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery

Read the two relevant pieces that informed this chat:

• Daniel's: A Prayer Drifts to a Nest

• Elia's: Notes on Assadism, Zionism, Fascism and Hope

For more:

• Elia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky, Mastodon and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ 

• Daniel Voskoboynik is on Bluesky and blogs at The Ecology of Us

• The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.

Credits:

Elia Ayoub (host, producer, episode design), Daniel Voskoboynik (host), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

Guest host Abdulla Moaswes, a Palestinian scholar and old buddy of mine, is joined by two scholars of Kashmir, Ather Zia and Hafsa Kanjwal to talk about Kashmir. It’s a long episode, but that’s because we wanted to make sure to present Kashmir’s history on its own terms, a Kashmir perspective that does not center Pakistan and certainly not India (or China).

This is part 3 of the Kashmir Question series. ⁠⁠The full version is available⁠⁠ on Patreon.

For much of the last 3 decades, Kashmir has been among the most militarised places on Earth, with its territory divided between the three nuclear-armed states of India, Pakistan, and China. Earlier this year, events in the region acted as a prelude to an armed confrontation between India and Pakistan, which the former used as an opportunity to more deeply entrench an emergent settler colonial form of rule in the territory. Many view the Kashmir question as simply a territorial dispute between these three states, but as this podcast series will demonstrate, the Kashmir question is one about colonial occupation and anticolonial resistance. In this podcast series, Hafsa, Ather and Abdulla first outline the origins of the Kashmir crisis, explaining how the region came to be partitioned as a result of British and Indian colonialism. They contextualise Kashmir’s colonisation within the project of Indian statebuilding, as well as the territory’s relevance to regional geopolitics. In part 2, they discuss Kashmiri resistance over the decades, including the events that led to and comprised the Kashmir Intifada that broke out in the late 1980s. The third and final episode consists of an assessment of Kashmir’s current status and the guests’ outlook for the future.

Ather Zia is an associate professor in the Department of Anthropology and the Gender Studies program at the University of Northern Colorado, Greeley as well as a poet, short fiction writer, and columnist.

Hafsa Kanjwal is an associate professor of South Asian History in the Department of History at Lafayette College in Easton, Pennsylvania

Abdulla Moaswes is a Palestinian writer, researcher, educator and translator.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠⁠⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: ⁠⁠Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution⁠⁠,⁠⁠ From The Periphery Podcast⁠⁠,⁠⁠ The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Politically Depressed⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Obscuristan⁠⁠⁠, and⁠⁠ ⁠Antidote Zine⁠⁠⁠.

If you're not a supporter yet, please consider doing so with only $5 a month on ⁠⁠Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery⁠⁠

For more:

• ⁠⁠Kashmir Lit⁠⁠

• Elia Ayoub is on⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠⁠Mastodon⁠⁠ and blogs at⁠⁠ ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠⁠⁠ 

• Abdulla Moaswes is on ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠

• Ather Zia has a ⁠⁠website⁠⁠

• Hafsa Kanjwal has a ⁠⁠website⁠⁠

• The Fire These Times is on⁠⁠ Bluesky⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ IG⁠⁠⁠ and has a⁠⁠⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠⁠, and has a⁠⁠⁠ website⁠⁠⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠⁠⁠ Antidote Zine⁠⁠⁠ and will be published on⁠⁠⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠⁠⁠.

Credits:

Abdulla Moaswes (host), Elia Ayoub (producer, sound editor, episode design),⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music),⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design),⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

Guest host Abdulla Moaswes, a Palestinian scholar and old buddy of mine, is joined by two scholars of Kashmir, Ather Zia and Hafsa Kanjwal to talk about Kashmir. It’s a long episode, but that’s because we wanted to make sure to present Kashmir’s history on its own terms, a Kashmir perspective that does not center Pakistan and certainly not India (or China).

This is part 2 of the Kashmir Question series. ⁠The full version is already available⁠ on Patreon.

For much of the last 3 decades, Kashmir has been among the most militarised places on Earth, with its territory divided between the three nuclear-armed states of India, Pakistan, and China. Earlier this year, events in the region acted as a prelude to an armed confrontation between India and Pakistan, which the former used as an opportunity to more deeply entrench an emergent settler colonial form of rule in the territory. Many view the Kashmir question as simply a territorial dispute between these three states, but as this podcast series will demonstrate, the Kashmir question is one about colonial occupation and anticolonial resistance. In this podcast series, Hafsa, Ather and Abdulla first outline the origins of the Kashmir crisis, explaining how the region came to be partitioned as a result of British and Indian colonialism. They contextualise Kashmir’s colonisation within the project of Indian statebuilding, as well as the territory’s relevance to regional geopolitics. In part 2, they discuss Kashmiri resistance over the decades, including the events that led to and comprised the Kashmir Intifada that broke out in the late 1980s. The third and final episode consists of an assessment of Kashmir’s current status and the guests’ outlook for the future.

Ather Zia is an associate professor in the Department of Anthropology and the Gender Studies program at the University of Northern Colorado, Greeley as well as a poet, short fiction writer, and columnist.

Hafsa Kanjwal is an associate professor of South Asian History in the Department of History at Lafayette College in Easton, Pennsylvania

Abdulla Moaswes is a Palestinian writer, researcher, educator and translator.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: ⁠Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution⁠,⁠ From The Periphery Podcast⁠,⁠ The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Politically Depressed⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Obscuristan⁠⁠, and⁠ ⁠Antidote Zine⁠⁠.

If you're not a supporter yet, please consider doing so with only $5 a month on ⁠Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery⁠

For more:

• ⁠Kashmir Lit⁠

• Elia Ayoub is on⁠ ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠Mastodon⁠ and blogs at⁠ ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠⁠ 

• Abdulla Moaswes is on ⁠Bluesky⁠

• Ather Zia has a ⁠website⁠

• Hafsa Kanjwal has a ⁠website⁠

• The Fire These Times is on⁠ Bluesky⁠,⁠⁠ IG⁠⁠ and has a⁠⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Patreon⁠⁠⁠,⁠ ⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠,⁠⁠ Instagram⁠⁠, and has a⁠⁠ website⁠⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠⁠ Antidote Zine⁠⁠ and will be published on⁠⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠⁠.

Credits:

Abdulla Moaswes (host), Elia Ayoub (producer, sound editor, episode design),⁠ ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music),⁠ ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design),⁠ ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and⁠ ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

Guest host Abdulla Moaswes, a Palestinian scholar and old buddy of mine, is joined by two scholars of Kashmir, Ather Zia and Hafsa Kanjwal to talk about Kashmir. It’s a long episode, but that’s because we wanted to make sure to present Kashmir’s history on its own terms, a Kashmir perspective that does not center Pakistan and certainly not India (or China).

This is part 1 of the Kashmir Question series. The full version is already available on Patreon.

For much of the last 3 decades, Kashmir has been among the most militarised places on Earth, with its territory divided between the three nuclear-armed states of India, Pakistan, and China. Earlier this year, events in the region acted as a prelude to an armed confrontation between India and Pakistan, which the former used as an opportunity to more deeply entrench an emergent settler colonial form of rule in the territory. Many view the Kashmir question as simply a territorial dispute between these three states, but as this podcast series will demonstrate, the Kashmir question is one about colonial occupation and anticolonial resistance. In this podcast series, Hafsa, Ather and Abdulla first outline the origins of the Kashmir crisis, explaining how the region came to be partitioned as a result of British and Indian colonialism. They contextualise Kashmir’s colonisation within the project of Indian statebuilding, as well as the territory’s relevance to regional geopolitics. In part 2, they discuss Kashmiri resistance over the decades, including the events that led to and comprised the Kashmir Intifada that broke out in the late 1980s. The third and final episode consists of an assessment of Kashmir’s current status and the guests’ outlook for the future.

Ather Zia is an associate professor in the Department of Anthropology and the Gender Studies program at the University of Northern Colorado, Greeley as well as a poet, short fiction writer, and columnist.

Hafsa Kanjwal is an associate professor of South Asian History in the Department of History at Lafayette College in Easton, Pennsylvania

Abdulla Moaswes is a Palestinian writer, researcher, educator and translator.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.

If you're not a supporter yet, please consider doing so with only $5 a month on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery

For more:

• Kashmir Lit

• Elia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky, Mastodon and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ 

• Abdulla Moaswes is on Bluesky

• Ather Zia has a website

• Hafsa Kanjwal has a website

• The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.

Credits:

Abdulla Moaswes (host), Elia Ayoub (producer, sound editor, episode design), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

In this special episode of The Fire These Times, Elia is joined by four members of the From The Periphery media collective to talk about the ongoing famine in Gaza, Israel's genocide and the world's complicity. Despite the obviously horrific nature of this topic, we insisted on not giving in to despair. The génocidaires cannot win.

The five participants connected to the Gaza genocide through their own respective experiences: Leila Al-Shami (Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution) is a Syrian-British activist and writer who lived in Gaza for three years; Karena Avedissian (Obscuristan) is an Armenian scholar who continues to reflect on the legacy of the Armenian genocide and the role of Genocide studies today; Daniel Voskoboynik (Hidah: Jewish Counter-Colonial Thoughts) joined us from what used to be the Warsaw Ghetto, site of one of the most infamous episodes of the Holocaust; israa' (The Mutual Aid Podcast) has been involved in Gaza mutual aid (click here for the link); and finally Elia is a Palestinian-Lebanese whose grandfather was a Palestinian refugee.

They spoke about pushing back against despair, and the importance of rejecting Israel's genocide as the new normal. It got very personal at times.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.

If you're not a supporter yet, please consider doing so with only $5 a month on Patreon.com/fromtheperiphery

For more:

• Elia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky, Mastodon and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ 

• Leila Al-Shami is on Bluesky, Mastodon and blogs here

• Karena Avedissian is on Bluesky

• israa is on Bluesky

• Daniel Voskoboynik is on Bluesky and blogs at The Ecology of Us

• The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.

Credits:

Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Leila Al Shami (host), israa (host), Daniel Voskoboynik (host), Karena Avedissian (host), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

For episode 200 (!) of The Fire These Times, Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor join Dana & Elia to talk about their piece "the rise of end times fascism."

Naomi Klein is the author of Doppelganger, On Fire, How to Change Everything, the Shock Doctrine & No Logo, among others. Astra Taylor is the co-founder of the Debt Collector and is the author of Democracy May Not Exist, but We'll Miss It When It's Gone, The People's Platform: Taking Back Power and Culture in the Digital Age and The Age of Insecurity: Coming Together as Things Fall Apart, among others.

The Fire These Times is a proud member of⁠ ⁠From The Periphery (FTP) Media Collective⁠⁠. Check out other projects in our media ecosystem: Syria: The Inconvenient Revolution, From The Periphery Podcast, The Mutual Aid Podcast⁠, ⁠Politically Depressed⁠, ⁠Obscuristan⁠, and ⁠Antidote Zine⁠.

Support FTP on Patreon!

Referenced:

• Sitt Marie Rose by Etel Adnan

• Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff podcast (on all podcast apps)

• Resistance is Fertile: The Star Trek Anarchist Podcast (on all podcast apps)

• The Book of Records 

For more:

• Naomi Klein has a website, a newsletter, and is on Instagram and Bluesky

• Astra Taylor has a website and is on Bluesky

• Elia Ayoub is on ⁠⁠Bluesky⁠⁠, ⁠Mastodon⁠, ⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠ and blogs at ⁠Hauntologies.net⁠ 

• Dana El Kurd is on Bluesky

• The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and⁠ YouTube⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

Transcriptions: Transcriptions are done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and will be published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠.

Credits:

Elia Ayoub (host, producer, sound editor, episode design), Dana El Kurd (host), ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (Music), ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (TFTT theme design), ⁠⁠Hisham Rifai⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP theme design) and ⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (FTP team profile pics). 

“Fascism isn’t just about power—it’s about controlling the stories we tell. It warps narratives to justify oppression, trapping us in cycles of dominance and despair. But stories can also resist, break those cycles, and open the door to something new.“ 

This is how YouTuber and hardcore Trekkie Jessie Gender starts her video essay “The Stories Fascism Fears Most“ which we highly recommend. A few weeks ago, Elia Ayoub sat down with Jessie to talk about it. They got into their love of Star Trek - because of course they did - as well as other franchises like The Matrix. 

This is a special crossover episode between The Fire These Times and Resistance is Fertile, a Star Trek Anarchist podcast by Elia and carla joy bergman. 

Show Notes

• Support the making of RIF on Patreon

• RIF BlueSky: @thestartrekpod.bsky.social‬

• RIF IG

• Elia’s work

• carla’s work

• Jessie Gender’s YouTube channel

• Music by NinePulse

• Tech by Chris Bergman

• RIF is co-produced by carla and Elia

• The Fire These Times is on Bluesky,⁠ IG⁠ and⁠ YouTube⁠ and has a⁠ ⁠website⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠

• From The Periphery is on⁠ ⁠Patreon⁠⁠, ⁠Bluesky⁠, ⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠, and has a⁠ website⁠⁠

• Transcriptions: Transcriptions are usually done by⁠ Antidote Zine⁠ and published on⁠ The Fire These Times' transcript archive⁠. However, this time it's the RIF gang that did the transcripts.

Thanks for listening!