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For episode 172, Elia Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik talk about a very difficult topic: the Holocaust and the Nakba. The ongoing Israeli genocide in Gaza brings up urgent questions about how memory is weaponized. Elia also talks about Jonathan Glazer,'s The Zone of Interest and the haunting parallels between the everyday life of the Nazi family portrayed in that movie, and the normalization of genocidal rhetoric in Israeli politics today.

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Host(s): Elia Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, israa' abdel fattah, Ayman Makarem and/or Leila Al-Shami | Music: ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠ | TFTT theme design: ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠ | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub

From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa' abdel fattah, with more joining soon!

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For episode 171, Elia Ayoub and guest host Hari Prasad are joined by Lateef Johar Baloch, a human rights advocate and a member of the Human Rights Council of Balochistan to talk to us about the history of Pakistani oppression and authoritarianism in Balochistan and the ongoing resistance against it. We also talked about broader issues facing Balochistan today including the role of foreign powers such as China and the USA. Note: this was recorded on 24 August 2024, two days before the attack in Musakhel.

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Host(s): Haris Prasad and Elia Ayoub | Guest(s): Lateef Johar Baloch | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, israa abd elfattah, Ayman Makarem and Leila Al-Shami | Music: ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠ | TFTT theme design: ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠ | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub

From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, israa abd elfattah, with more joining soon!

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For episode 170, returning guest Musa Okwonga talks to Elia Ayoub about a piece he wrote, "The Hatred Is Accelerating", on racism and the far right in Germany. This was recorded on 31 August 2024, a day before the fascist AfD party won top place in Thuringia and second in Saxony in the state elections.

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Host(s): Elia Ayoub | Guest(s): Musa Okwonga | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, Israa Abdel Fattah, Ayman Makarem and Leila Al-Shami | Music: ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠ | TFTT theme design: ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠ | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub

From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, Israa Abdel Fattah, with more joining soon!

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For episode 169, Elia Ayoub is joined by returning guests Sahar Amarir and Rim-Sarah Alouane to talk about the situation in France, from the recent elections that saw a surprising victory for a Left-Green alliance to how Macronism has been actively normalizing the far right. They described the situation as grim, with far right ideology on questions of race and freedom of worship (especially Islam) the norm in France, with grave implications for the country, the EU and the world. We also talked about Alouane's recent piece on France banning veiled Muslim athletes despite making an inclusivity pledge.

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Hosts: Elia Ayoub | Guests: Rim-Sarah Alouane & Sahar Amarir | Producer: Elia Ayoub | Music: ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠ | Main theme design: ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠ | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub.

For this rerun episode, Elia Ayoub is joined by Kavita Krishnan, an Indian Marxist and Feminist who used to be a politburo member of the Communist Party of India (Marxist–Leninist) Liberation who resigned over Ukraine. He is also joined by ⁠Promise Li⁠, a US-based Hong Konger organizer and part of the Left diaspora collective ⁠Lausan. Co-hosting this episode is ⁠Romeo Kokriatski⁠, a Ukrainian-American journalist, managing editor of the ⁠New Voice of Ukraine⁠ and co-host of the ⁠Ukraine Without Hype⁠ podcast.

The topic: why the idea of multipolarity needs to be understood & critiqued, and why the left cannot abandon anti-authoritarianism and internationalism.

Note: Due to Russia's ongoing bombardments of Ukraine, Romeo's power went out towards the end of the episode so we had to continue without him. 

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- My piece for Lausan Collective: ⁠The periphery has no time for binaries⁠
- ⁠Majoritarian State: How Hindu Nationalism is Changing India by Angana P. Chatterji, Thomas Blom Hansen and Christophe Jaffrelot ⁠ (recommended by Kavita Krishnan)
- ⁠Money Power and Financial Capital in Emerging Markets: Facing the Liquidity Tsunami by Ilias Alami (recommended by Promise Li)
- Regular updates on India can be found on ⁠The India Cable⁠

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Hosts: Elia Ayoub and Romeo Kokriatski | Guests: Kavita Krishnan and Promise Li | Producer: Elia Ayoub | Music: ⁠Rap and Revenge⁠ | Main theme design: ⁠Wenyi Geng⁠ | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub.

For episode 168, Elia and Leila are joined by the Chkoun? Collective, a collective of people from "North Africa" resisting anti-Black racism and its intersections with migration and the fight for freedom of movement in the region. We discussed their statement "Solidarities are not a given, they need to be built" and how it relates to our experiences covering Syria, Israel-Palestine, and Lebanon.

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For episode 167, guest host Justin Salhani is joined by Yasser Elsheshtawy to talk about the Dubaization plan that Netanyahu's team put forward for Gaza after their genocide. You won't be surprised to know that we think it's a terrible plan, but what is dubaization?

du·bai·za·tion /dōō’bīzāSHən/ adjective: 1. the act of building a city which relies on spectacular, non-contextual architecture (“The dubaization of Cairo’s skyline”). Synonyms: gulfication; spectacular urbanism. Antonyms: context-oriented urban development; integrated urban fabric; informality.

Bio: Yasser Elsheshtawy is a Non-Resident Scholar at the Arab Gulf States Institute in Washington, DC, and an Adjunct Professor at Columbia University (GSAPP). His scholarship focuses on informal urbanism and environment-behavior studies, with a particular focus on Middle Eastern cities. Moreover, he is an Independent Consultant and has worked on numerous projects in Saudi Arabia, collaborating with renowned architectural and planning practices. He taught at United Arab Emirates University from 1997 till 2017 and was appointed as Curator for the UAE Pavilion at the Venice Architecture Biennale in 2016. He was a Visiting Professor at Université Paris Sorbonne during the Fall semester of 2017. He has authored over 70 publications including Riyadh: Transforming a Desert City, Temporary Cities, and Dubai: Behind an Urban Spectacle. He also edited The Evolving Arab City which received the 2010 International Planning History Society Best Book Award, and Planning Middle Eastern Cities. Two chapters on urban development in the Arab world were published in the widely-known City Planning and Urban Design Readers. Elsheshtawy has a PhD in Architecture from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, a Master in Architecture from Pennsylvania State University, and a Bachelor of Architecture from Cairo University.

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For episode 166, Dana & Elia are joined by Ahmed Moor & Antony Loewenstein, co-editors of the book "After Zionism: One State for Israel and Palestine" to talk about the ongoing genocide in Gaza and whether there is any hope for the One State Solution.

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For episode 165, Elia and Aydın are joined by investigative journalist and anarchist James Stout  of the It Could Happen Here podcast to talk about the 1936 anti-fascist Olympics in Barcelona and the fascists who destroyed it. There's a reason you've only heard of the more notorious Berlin one, and we're gonna get into it here.

You can buy James' book: The Popular Front and the Barcelona 1936 Popular Olympics

His NatGeo piece: The brutal story of the 1936 Popular Olympics: a boycott of fascism and Hitler

The 'Cool People Who Did Cool Stuff' Episode on the Spanish Civil War: The Popular Olympics Antifascist Athletes Help Stop a Coup

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For episode 164, Dana El-Kurd is joined by Michael Paarlbeg, associate professor of political science at Virginia Commonwealth University, to discuss the intersection between crime and authoritarian politics in Latin America. They particularly focus on the the state of emergency happening today in El Salvador, covering the rise of Nayib Bukele and the political implications of the “gang state” emerging in the country.

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