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Beatrice speaks with Jane Thomason of National Nurses United (NNU) about the Trump administration’s disbanding of the CDC’s HICPAC committee, the body that oversees infection control practices across the healthcare industry — and a committee that Jane was briefly involved with as part of an advisory workgroup since last summer. We also discuss the Trump administration’s staggering cuts across NIOSH, a key agency for workplace health and safety protections, and their significance within the broader “MAHA” agenda.

Find NNU's call to action letter about NIOSH here:

https://nnu.org/saveniosh

Jane Thomason is NNU’s lead industrial hygienist. She was last on the show in March 2024 and August 2023 to speak about a campaign against proposed infection control cuts being considered by HICPAC, after which she was added to a HICPAC workgroup that May. Jane returns today now that, with HICPAC disbanded, she’s once again able to speak more openly about committee deliberations.

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

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Find Tracy's book, Abolish Rent, here: www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2443-abolish-rent

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Beatrice speaks with Melissa Gira Grant about “Alligator Alcatraz,” Trump’s new concentration camp in Florida. We discuss what the site means for the US under new, swelling ICE budgets, how it reflects a fascist fantasy of using the landscape as an arm of carceral enforcement, and the hope we can take from the long history of anti-colonial and anti-supremacist resistance movements on the very same land.

Read Melissa's piece, "The Grand Opening of an American Concentration Camp," here: https://newrepublic.com/article/197508/alligator-alcatraz-trump-concentration-camp

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Note: We are back from parental leave! This episode was originally released May 6th, 2024 for Death Panel patrons and is being unlocked today for the first time. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

Beatrice and Phil speak with legal scholars Karen Tani and Katie Eyer about how the Supreme Court used cases related to disability and deinstitutionalization in the 1970s and 1980s as an opportunity to remake and expand its own powers, the role that these cases had in securing conservatives’ “New Federalism” revolution, and how disability cases continue to be a site of conservative judicial advancement today.

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Find Jules' latest book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny

Find Tracy's book, Abolish Rent, here: www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2443-abolish-rent

Find Phil's new book, Counting Like a State, here: kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700639687/

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Beatrice speaks with Silky Shah about the historical and material links between the rise of the immigration detention system and mass incarceration, and her new book, Unbuild Walls: Why Immigrant Justice Needs Abolition.

Note: This episode was originally released for patrons on August 26th, 2024 and is being re-released today in light of ongoing resistance to ICE raids and detention.

Find Silky’s book here: https://www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2213-unbuild-walls

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Beatrice and Tracy speak with Brian Goldstone about how we intentionally undercount the homeless in America, and what life looks like for those that don’t make the official count; the myths of homelessness and personal responsibility that draw attention away from the demise of public housing and rise of neoliberalism; and Brian’s new book There Is No Place for Us: Working and Homeless in America.

Find Brian's book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/645871/there-is-no-place-for-us-by-brian-goldstone/

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Find Jules' latest book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny

Find Tracy's book, Abolish Rent, here: www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2443-abolish-rent

Find Phil's new book, Counting Like a State, here: kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700639687/

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Beatrice speaks with Mon Mohapatra of Community Justice Exchange (CJE) about their new resource “If They Build It: Organizing Lessons & Strategies Against Carceral Infrastructure,” a resource looking at the strategies deployed in anti-carceral organizing over the last few decades for strategies to strengthen future campaigns against carceral infrastructure and to strengthen future organizing against all types of cages.

Find the resource here: https://www.communityjusticeexchange.org/en/resources-all/if-they-build-it-organizing-lessons-amp-strategies-against-carceral-infrastructure

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Beatrice speaks with Betsy Ladyzhets and Miles W. Griffis of The Sick Times about what the Trump administration has done in its first few months to set back long covid research and to deepen what we’ve long called the sociological production of the end of the pandemic.

Transcript forthcoming.

Find The Sick Times here: https://thesicktimes.org/

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Find Jules' new book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny

Find Tracy's book, Abolish Rent, here: www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2443-abolish-rent

Preorder Phil's new book, Counting Like a State, here: kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700639687/

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Beatrice speaks with William C. Anderson about the liberal tendency to limit political action to voting while simultaneously blaming victims of the electoral system for their own oppression (e.g. dismissal of the south as somehow “deserving” Republican control). We also discuss how this tendency towards indirect democracy vs direct democracy can spur despair and resignation, and how to resist it.

Read William's piece, Another way out: Fighting back against inaction here: https://prismreports.org/2025/06/03/inaction-voting-revolutionary-change/

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Note: This episode was originally released for patrons on September 23rd, 2024 and is being re-aired today in reponse to the Supreme Court's ruling in the case, as Artie explains at beginning of the episode. To support the show and help make episodes like this one possible, become a patron at www.patreon.com/deathpanelpod

Beatrice and Jules discuss an amicus brief Jules co-authored for the Supreme Court case United States v. Skrmetti, a case heard at the court this week that could have a dramatic impact on young people’s access to medical transition. We talk through the brief and the historical evidence it contains dispelling popular myths that trans kids are new or that transition is itself dangerous, and show that medical transition and youth transition have histories stretching back far further than popular accounts would lead you to believe.

Read the brief here: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-477/323955/20240903153746246_23-477tsacAmericanHistoricalAssociation.pdf

Find Jules book Histories of the Transgender Child here: https://www.upress.umn.edu/9781517904678/histories-of-the-transgender-child/

Find our book Health Communism here: www.versobooks.com/books/4081-health-communism

Find Jules' new book, A Short History of Trans Misogyny, here: https://www.versobooks.com/products/3054-a-short-history-of-trans-misogyny

Find Tracy's book, Abolish Rent, here: www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2443-abolish-rent

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Against the backdrop of riotous anti-ICE actions in Los Angeles, Beatrice and Tracy speak with Marques Vestal about the history of property and place, eviction and forced removal in LA and how the state's policies of expulsion shaped mass evictions in 1907, the Watts Rebellion in 1965, and radical LA today.

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Find Tracy's book Abolish Rent here: www.haymarketbooks.org/books/2443-abolish-rent