Phil Zwerling an Associate Professor of Creative Writing and Director of the Creative Writing Program at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley. He is the author of three books (Nicaragua: A New Kind of Revolution, 1985, After School Theatre Programs for At Risk Teenagers and The Theatre of Lee Blessing: A Critical Study of 44 Plays. Phil joins me to talk about his edited book, The CIA on Campus: Academic Freedom and the National Security State. The CIA on Campus details how Central Intelligence Agency has poured tens of millions of dollars into universities to influence research and enlist students and faculty members into its ranks.