Sergeant James Spencer Cannon, Media Relations Officer for the Utah County Sherriff's Office and personal friend, joins me for this very important conversation on some challenging topics.

Utah County Attorney David Leavitt has been talking about ritualistic sex abuse suspect for years

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVJue-FJr88

Utah County attorney says he’s been wrongly accused of cannibalism

https://kslnewsradio.com/1969649/utah-county-attorney-says-hes-been-wrongly-accused-of-cannibalism/

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Joseph Smith Revealed: A Faithful Telling – Exploring an Alternate Polygamy Narrative, by Whitney Horning

https://www.amazon.com/Joseph-Smith-Revealed-Exploring-Alternate/dp/1097872726

Hyrum Smith: A Prophet Unsung, by Whitney Horning

https://www.amazon.com/Hyrum-Prophet-Unsung-Whitney-Horning/dp/B0B7QPTNKC

Mormon Stories, Ep. 1815 - Polygamy Under Joseph Smith w/ Lindsay Hansen Park & Bryan Buchanan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPukJiqc4wE

1:24:50

Doctrine and Covenants 101 - Marriage (1835 version)

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/doctrine-and-covenants-1835/259

1:25:50

132 Problems Episode 5 - Doctrine & Covenants Teachings on Marriage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXAXj6Attko

132 Problems Episode 68 - The Fruits of Polygamy, with Flora Jessop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkfTtQGOQxM

1:35:50 - TRANSCRIPT OF MISSING AUDIO

Bryan Buchanan: "The problem is we don’t always know the dates, and so – as the Louisa Beaman case, and our – a lot of these questions would only be really well answered if we had more data."

2:34:40

Doctrine and Covenants 101:46-54 (current version)

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/101?lang=eng

2:50:30

Doctrine and Covenants 132

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/dc-testament/dc/132?lang=eng

2:51:10

The Book of Mormon, Jacob 2

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/jacob/2?lang=eng

3:07:30

Discourse by Brigham Young, September 21, 1856.

https://www.josephsmithfoundation.org/journalofdiscourses/speakers/brigham-young/the-people-of-god-disciplined-by-trials-atonement-by-the-shedding-of-blood-our-heavenly-father-a-privilege-given-to-all-the-married/

3:24:45

The Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 3:12

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/scriptures/bofm/2-ne/3?lang=eng

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Part 3 of 4 on the Nauvoo Expositor. This will build on the first part, continuing the discussion of the conspiracy against Joseph Smith, going forward to the destruction of the Expositor press and the martyrdom. It is hard to believe how misunderstood and intentionally twisted all of these events have been in people's efforts to paint Joseph Smith as a polygamist.

Part 4 will again focus on the specific claims of polygamy surrounding the Expositor and the high council meeting.

Links:

25:40 Dallin H. Oaks Paper:

https://archive.bookofmormoncentral.org/sites/default/files/archive-files/pdf/oaks/2020-11-30/18_dallin_h._oaks_legally_supressing_the_nauvoo_expositor_in_1844_2014.pdf Suppression of the Nauvoo Expositor (pgs 862-903)

https://collections.lib.utah.edu/details?id=722871

Joseph I. Bentley paper:

https://byustudies.byu.edu/author/joseph-i-bentley/

49:30 Warsaw Signal June 14th Extra

https://archive.org/details/warsawsignalextr00wars/mode/2up

http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/IL/sign1844.htm#0614

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/mayors-order-to-nauvoo-city-marshal-10-june-1844/1#full-transcript

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/112

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-thomas-ford-16-june-1844/1

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/112

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/120

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/120

http://boap.org/LDS/Nauvoo-Neighbor/1844/6-17-1844!.pdf

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/122

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/124

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-to-thomas-ford-22-23-june-1844/3?highlight=We%20do%20know%20that%20it%20is%20common%20for%20police%20in%20Boston,%20N.%20York,

https://famous-trials.com/carthrage/1308-fordletter

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-from-thomas-ford-22-june-1844/1

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/letter-from-thomas-ford-22-june-1844/1#full-transcript

https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-29/ pg 560

https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-30/ pg 566

https://ensignpeakfoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/Augustine-Spencer-Nauvoo-Gentile-Joseph-Smith-Antagonist.pdf )

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-f-1-1-may-1844-8-august-1844/140

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minutes-10-june-1844/14

1:33:40 Richard Law story in Improvement Era

https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/885417da-0dda-4c46-8267-6a5ef955c294/0/0

1:40:00 An Interesting Testimony by Joseph W. McMurrin

https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/885417da-0dda-4c46-8267-6a5ef955c294/0/0

1:46:00 Joseph Smith III article in the North American Review

https://www.jstor.org/stable/25119379?searchText=polygamy&searchUri=%2Faction%2FdoBasicSearch%3Fscope%3DeyJwYWdlTmFtZSI6ICJUaGUgTm9ydGggQW1lcmljYW4gUmV2aWV3IiwgInBhZ2VVcmwiOiAiL2pvdXJuYWwvbm9ydGFtZXJyZXYiLCAidHlwZSI6ICJqb3VybmFsIiwgImpjb2RlcyI6ICJub3J0YW1lcnJldjpub3J0YW1lcnJldm1pc2NqIn0%253D%26Query%3Dpolygamy&ab_segments=0%2Fbasic_search_gsv2%2Fcontrol&refreqid=fastly-default%3Abd114d6390f50440e007ab501e30a69f&seq=9

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I'm so thankful that John Hamer, a long-time leading voice on Joseph's polygamy was willing to sit down with me to talk about the evidence. I hope conversations like these can continue to happen, and can continue to move us all closer to truth.

Links:

0:01:30

John Hamer: Joseph Smith and Polygamy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM6O0md1Dfg

John Hamer: Joseph Smith III's Unpragmatic Choice on Polygamy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vecyhTyt6g

0:55:47

Joseph Smith Fought Polygamy, by Richard and Pamela Price (read for free online)

https://restorationbookstore.org/pages/joseph-smith-fought-polygamy-online

1:06:50

Joseph Smith original journal entry 5 October 1843 (“No man shall have but one wife.”)

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-december-1842-june-1844-book-3-15-july-1843-29-february-1844/123

Revisions and additions to journal entry 5 October 1843

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-draft-1-march-31-december-1843/143

Revised text of journal entry 5 October 1843

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/faenrandir/a_careful_examination/d6ee663e933a8cb01b79ddc33fe1232ac3ef12e5/documents/polygamy/oct5-1843/manuscript-history-of-the-church-october-5-1843-d1-720px.jpg

2:24:20

The Contributor (first mention of Whitney “revelation”)

https://archive.org/details/contributor0604eng/page/130/mode/2up?view=theater

2:29:27

Joseph Smith letter to the Whitneys

https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/12d43acf-10e8-4e5c-b4fd-678613e4c6a3/0/0

1:46:38

October 1842 Times and Seasons

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/times-and-seasons-1-october-1842/14

1:47:18

The Voice of Innocence, read by Emma Smith to the women of Nauvoo, March 1844

https://www.churchhistorianspress.org/the-first-fifty-years-of-relief-society/part-1/1-10

2:27:08

Evaluation of 1842 Whitney "Revelation" by Rob Fotheringham

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HheHqg4c3HQ

3:17:30

Toronto Centre Place

https://www.centreplace.ca/

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Everything to do with Joseph Smith's polygamy hinges on William Clayton and his journals. Many people argue that Clayton's journals should be accepted without question -- but they haven't seen this.

Jeremy Hoop takes us through an extremely in depth look at everything we know about William Clayton's process of record keeping -- and editing. He clearly demonstrates how we can easily tell the difference between an original draft book and a finalized clean copy, and shows in no uncertain terms (through extensive visual evidence) which category Clayton's journals fall into.

This is a very long discussion, which some will find fascinating, and others will find overwhelming. For those who prefer the more condensed version, Jeremy will return in the near future to present a much shorter version of the same presentation and evidence, so you won't completely miss out.

Links:

William Clayton's Writings, Fillerup compilation: https://archive.org/stream/WilliamClaytonJournal/WilliamClaytonJournal_djvu.txt

Joseph Smith's Try the Spirits from Times and Seasons: https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100166.pdf

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This is the one. Please watch to the end.

Links:

-Nauvoo Expositor (Affidavits on pg 2) https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OOmVZThUdksmqENbBlPxWXV_qWpFQ_reG3ipyXBc_VM/edit

-Joseph Smith July 16 Sermon:

-Franklin D Richars: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-16-july-1843-as-reported-by-franklin-d-richards/1#full-transcript

-William Clayton:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-16-july-1843-as-reported-by-william-clayton/1#full-transcript

-Levi Richards: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/e6774c39-facf-48b1-a55b-d08eb24ee8c6/0/11

-Willard Richards – Joseph Smith “Journal” https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/journal-december-1842-june-1844-book-3-15-july-1843-29-february-1844/44#full-transcript

-High Council Minutes

https://archive.org/details/NauvooHighCouncilMinutes/page/n83/mode/2up

-Early History of the Reorganization by Edmund C. Briggs (searchable online version)

https://www.centerplace.org/library/books/earlyhistoryofthereorganization.htm

-Nauvoo City Council Minutes: June 8,1844: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minutes-8-june-1844/2#full-transcript

-June 10, 1844:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minutes-8-june-1844/2#full-transcript

--Joseph Smith June 16, 1844 sermon

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/discourse-16-june-1844-a-as-reported-by-thomas-bullock/1#full-transcript

-Hyrum Smith April 8 Sermon https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/daa151c4-7bae-49d0-8cef-d281a70f1d32/0/34

-Brigham Young Quote: (Complete Discourses vol 5, pg 1101)

-Soon-to-be Vice President of the United States, Schuyler Colfax, June 17, 1865 “... the revelations of the Doctrine and Covenants declared for monogamy, but that polygamy was a later revelation commanded by God to him [Brigham] and a few others, and permitted and advised to the rest of the church” (see, quoted in The Western Galaxy, Vol. I, p. 247)

-Happiness Letter:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/appendix-letter-to-nancy-rigdon-circa-mid-april-1842/1

Catherine Lewis: https://archive.org/stream/CatherineLewisNarrative/Catherine%20Lewis%20Narrative_djvu.txt

Times and Season Feb. 1, 1844

https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/10070

Times and Seasons March 15, 1844

https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/9987

China Creek Letter Cut from History: https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/history-1838-1856-volume-e-1-1-july-1843-30-april-1844/303?highlight=china%20creek

Times and Seasons April 1, 1844

https://contentdm.lib.byu.edu/digital/collection/NCMP1820-1846/id/8236

William Clayton Letter: https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/ab830b42-45c7-4c77-b32f-b1a1d76dfdfd/0/3

William Clayton Affidavit:

https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/d091310b-4d88-43dd-a141-bb7ec1579934/0/2

July 12, 1843 Official Business:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/reference/calendar-of-documents?highlight=january%205%201844%20city%20council%20minutes#1843-07

Smith Family Land Deed (Emma and Children):

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/deed-to-emma-smith-and-others-12-july-1843/1

Hyrum Smith Land Deed:

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/deed-to-hyrum-smith-12-july-1843-draft/1#full-transcript

Joseph Smith Fought Polygamy online:

https://restorationbookstore.org/pages/joseph-smith-fought-polygamy-online

vol. 3, chapter 14 - 15 https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0106/5887/3380/files/JSFP3-chp14.pdf?v=1588802602

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0106/5887/3380/files/JSFP3-chp15.pdf?v=1588802601

Nauvoo School Announcement:

http://boap.org/LDS/Nauvoo-Neighbor/1843/8-9-1843.pdf (pg 4, 2nd column)

Jason Briggs: Basis of Brighamite Polygamy

https://www.latterdaytruth.org/pdf/100630.pdf

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This is one to share. So often we are told that this topic doesn't matter and shouldn't be discussed -- Polygamy is behind us and we don't need to talk, think or worry about it. Heather and Lisa are here to help people understand exactly why it matters, and why it must be addressed and repaired. Polygamy is still very much with us, tormenting too many women and hurting too many hearts and marriages. This was one of my all-time favorite conversations. I am sure you too will be touched by the goodness, sincerity, vulnerability and courage of these two beautiful women.

132 Problems Episode 42: Emma and Joseph

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3KtLnYFu9c

A Plea to My Sisters, by Russell M. Nelson

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/general-conference/2015/10/a-plea-to-my-sisters?lang=eng

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The Nauvoo Expositor, an essential part of church history that lead directly to the martyrdom, and is used by historians and critics to support the assumption that Joseph was indeed the originator of section 132 and polygamy, requires a lot of serious investigation.

Understanding the situations and motivations of the men behind this newspaper, the fears of the city it sought to overthrow, and the things it actually says (and does not say) is essential to the discussion of Joseph Smith's polygamy. While people with only surface research or understanding make claims that the expositor proves Joseph's polygamy, deeper understanding reveals exactly the opposite.

Links:

The Warsaw Signal, May 22, 1844

https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/03f9e475-52af-4def-87f6-654a9ae45bf3/0/1

Lucy Mack Family Memoir

https://archive.org/details/LucysBook/page/n1/mode/2up?q=joseph+jackson

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/lucy-mack-smith-history-1844-1845/1#full-transcript

Nauvoo Neighbor, April 17, 1844

http://boap.org/LDS/Nauvoo-Neighbor/1844/4-17-1844.pdf

Nauvoo Neighbor, May 29, 1844

http://boap.org/LDS/Nauvoo-Neighbor/1844/5-29-1844.pdf

City Council Minutes, June 8, 1844

https://ia802907.us.archive.org/18/items/NauvooExpositor1844Replica/Nauvoo_Expositor_1844_replica.pdf

City Council Minutes, June 10, 1844

https://www.josephsmithpapers.org/paper-summary/minutes-10-june-1844/1#full-transcript

Nauvoo Expositor

https://ia802907.us.archive.org/18/items/NauvooExpositor1844Replica/Nauvoo_Expositor_1844_replica.pdf

Road to Martyrdom, Joseph I. Bentley

https://byustudies.byu.edu/article/road-to-martyrdom-joseph-smiths-last-legal-cases/#footnote-068

William Law: Nauvoo Dissenter, Lyndon Cook

https://byustudies.byu.edu/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/22.1CookWilliam-812be19f-f962-4091-bf12-ff7ca3fd7502.pdf

William Law Letters

https://scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1981&context=byusq

Sangamo Journal, Warsaw Signal, and other newspapers:

http://www.sidneyrigdon.com/dbroadhu/il/sign1844.htm#0529

Interview on Nauvoo Counterfeiting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TncaVElUfBA&t=2364s

Joseph Jackson Letter and Book

https://www.reddit.com/r/mormon/comments/7828su/joseph_h_jacksons_letter_june_1_1844_included/

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/A_Narrative_of_the_Adventures_and_Experience_of_Joseph_H._Jackson_in_Nauvoo

Eaton and Williams Affidavits

https://byustudies.byu.edu/online-chapters/volume-6-chapter-11/

William Law diary - request form

https://lib.byu.edu/search/byu/record/cat.1577718.item.31197230324508?holding=ln780kz5zajj6vne

William Law's Amazing (and Suspect) Diary, by Benjamin Park

https://professorpark.wordpress.com/2017/03/06/william-laws-amazing-and-suspect-diary/

Tribune interview with William Law, July 31, 1887

https://william-law.org/publications/dr-w-wyl-wilhelm-ritter-von-wymetal-interview-with-william-law-in-shullsburg-wisconsin-30-march-1887-the-daily-tribune-salt-lake-city-31-july-1887/

Richard Law interview (son of William Law), 1903

https://william-law.org/publications/richard-s-law-improvement-era-1903/

Mark Hofmann forgeries article

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/history/topics/hofmann-forgeries?lang=eng

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A huge thanks to Gwendolyn Wyne for this conversation. I strongly recommend her articles and youtube channel.

Links:

Gwendolyn Wyne’s YouTube channel: https://youtube.com/@gwendolynwyne

Gwendolyn’s published writing: https://gwendolynwyne.com/writing/

Her preferred brand of feminism: https://squaretwo.org/aerow.html

Church news article about the non-Latter-day Saint biography on Joseph Smith Jr that is in the works:

https://www.thechurchnews.com/history/2022/9/9/23343356/john-turner-joseph-smith-papers-conference-keynote-church-history