Steph and Robert speak to Sir Paul Nurse - Nobel Prize winning cell biologist and Director of the Francis Crick Institute - about how science funding needs to change, why the UK is failing to lure global talent, how we scrub up against the other OECD countries in terms of research and development and how - despite being a geneticist - it took him 55 years to discover who his biological parents were.

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