Today, Callie and Chuck talk to Zeb Smathers, Mayor of Canton, NC, about governing as a Democrat in a small Appalachian town in one of the "reddest" parts of the state.

Also. Callie and Chuck question JD Vance's commitment to the First Amendment, cringe at Dr. Oz's campaign tactics and talk about gun reform in Appalachia and what we believe can be done.

Transition music by Corduroy Brown https://corduroy-brown.com/
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Timestamps

• 04:58 - Intro: JD "I believe in freedom of speech except for boobs" Vance
• 11:45 - Campaign Check-in: Dr. Oz, the practitioner of cringe
• 31:33 - Announcements (Patreon Limericks!)
• 34:15 -  Interview with Mayor Zeb Smathers
• 01:32:47  - The Uvalde shooting and what can be done about guns

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