In this episode, we sit down with brothers Danyil and Valentyn of ZIFERBLAT (Циферблат), Ukraine’s representatives for Eurovision 2025, to discuss their journey to the contest and the significance of their song, Bird of Pray. They open up about their deep connection to music, the pressure of representing their country during a time of war, and their hopes for the future. Join us for an emotional and inspiring conversation about resilience, their art, and the power music can have on the Eurovision stage.

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