Clay Jenkinson and David Nicandri discuss Thomas Jefferson's fascination with the mammoth, and his hope that Lewis and Clark would find living specimens. As it turns out, Nicandri and Jenkinson have an equal fascination. Also discussed is the changing influence written history has on us.

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Mentioned on this episode: NPR: "Scientists Say They Could Bring Back Woolly Mammoths. But Maybe They Shouldn't," How to Clone a Mammoth by Beth Shapiro, The Ministry for the Future by Kim Stanley Robinson

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