In this episode, Xavier Bonilla has a dialogue with Gregory Forth about the search for a hidden human species. They discuss his background working in Indonesia, an overview of different species of humans, and where the "ape-men" fit into the broader picture. They talk about the environment on Flores, Indonesia and the characteristics of the Lio people who are the primary eyewitnesses. They give a profile of the ape-men, discuss the role of myths and legends, and give specific details of the eyewitness accounts of the ape-men. 

Gregory Forth is an anthropologist and was professor of Anthropology at the University of Alberta for over 30 years. He is well published in the scientific journals and has authored various academic books. He is the author of Between Ape and Human. You can find his work here. 

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