Brady Stiff and Kelsey Loughlin are longtime friends who finally decided to record their conversations about sports and everything else and host a podcast called “...And we’re back” available on Spotify/Apple podcasts.⁣

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They recently had me as a guest on their podcast to talk about my experience with officiating, provide some tips for new officials, dispel some myths about sports officials, and talk about how Crown Refs was built from the bottom up.