Cider Chat

152: How to teach Cidermaking 101


Listen Later

Teaching Cider Making is fairly straight forward:

Have on hand:

  • Fresh pressed apple juice
  • A carboy or some sanitized vessel to hold the juice, with enough room for it to ferment and not bubble over.
  • An airlock to release CO2 and keep out Oxygen

That is the basics, but in truth there is more to consider before you start publicizing your Cidermaking workshop.

When Matthew Somerville reached out to me in September 2018 to speak with me on a cidermaking course he was setting up in his area of Ontario (Port Perry), I gladly jumped at the chance to have a chat.

The Skype call

" data-medium-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Matthew-Ria.jpg?fit=300%2C221&ssl=1" data-large-file= "https://i0.wp.com/ciderchat.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/Matthew-Ria.jpg?fit=840%2C619&ssl=1" /> The Skype call

This episode features that conversation as we discuss all the particulars of setting up a cidermaking course for non professionals.

Matthew Somerville and Andy Paul own Two Blokes Cider in Port Perry and Toronto, Canada. Port Perry is a 1 hour drive from Toronto

They are newly licensed in 2019. To prep for that moment they planted 2000 apples trees – cider varieties- in 2015 on a family farm.

What follows below is an overview of tips from our conversation.

The goal of Cidermaking 101

The goal: Make cider making as simple and attainable as possible.

Basics of what to have on hand

  • Recommend 2 demos – one with dry yeast and the other liquid ( recommend sweet mead and making a cyser, by adding up to 3 pound of honey per 5 gallons – the new makers will be pleased with the results. I have found this to be a fail safe cyser to make during demos)
  • Have 2 glass carboys pre filed with cider (half filled, so it can be easily moved after the workshop to your cellar)
  • Have airlocks pre sanitized and enclosed in a ziplock bag.
  • If adding honey (as I usually did with one batch) have a sanitize funnel to make pouring the yeast.
  • Have cider on hand for folks to taste and to discuss what you did last year to make that cider. Having a taste of cider will definitely elicit questions.

Options on set up

  • pick your own apples and press on site
  • do a bulk pressing and prepare the cider before hand by setting up the ph and sulfite before the course begins.

Ria's favorite way to go – don't worry about the ph and don't worry that the cider is cool. It won't be absolutely perfect but that is the beauty of cider. Use the fresh pressed juice on hand, plop in the yeast and spend a bit of time on primary fermentation and the first initial racking.

Yeast:

  • Pick a yeast that leaves a bit of residual sugar.
  • Recommend 2 yeast for a demo
  • Sweet Mead Yeast – buy it in liquid form
  • And 71B

Be prepared post the workshop for incoming emails as the new cidermakers go home and begin wondering if what they are doing is right.

Final Goal: Have people wanting to keep coming back to cider.

Matthew's inspirational read for cider making Craft Cider: How to Turn Apples into Alcohol.

Main tips to glean from this chat

  • Keep it simple
  • Avoid getting too technical
  • Entice the newbies to make it not only once but again and again.
Mentions in this Cider Chat

Nigel and Natasa O'Connor of Militsa Apple Cider

www.militsa-cider.com

Apples used for cider in Cat Militsa Apple Cider:

  • Kathista
  • Lortico
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Cider ChatBy Ria Windcaller: Award-winning Cidermaker, Podcaster | Craft Beer Columnist

  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8
  • 4.8

4.8

85 ratings


More shows like Cider Chat

View all
Radiolab by WNYC Studios

Radiolab

43,826 Listeners

Freakonomics Radio by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Freakonomics Radio

32,231 Listeners

Fresh Air by NPR

Fresh Air

38,490 Listeners

The Tim Ferriss Show by Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

The Tim Ferriss Show

16,184 Listeners

The NPR Politics Podcast by NPR

The NPR Politics Podcast

26,043 Listeners

On the Media by WNYC Studios

On the Media

9,224 Listeners

In Our Time by BBC Radio 4

In Our Time

5,580 Listeners

The Daily by The New York Times

The Daily

113,504 Listeners

Up First from NPR by NPR

Up First from NPR

56,983 Listeners

Radio Atlantic by The Atlantic

Radio Atlantic

2,391 Listeners

Today, Explained by Vox

Today, Explained

10,332 Listeners

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway by Vox Media Podcast Network

The Prof G Pod with Scott Galloway

5,651 Listeners

Beyond Organic Wine by Beyond Organic Wine

Beyond Organic Wine

54 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,554 Listeners

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart by Comedy Central

The Weekly Show with Jon Stewart

10,996 Listeners