Paul Shatzkin joins us for a great chat about his two books "The Boy Who Invented Television - A Story of Inspiration, Persistence and Quiet Passion", and "The Man Who Mastered Gravity - A Twisted Tale of Space, Time and The Mysteries In Between". A fascinating journey from their births around 1905/06 right when Enstein shocked the world and deleted 'Ether', these two inventors grew up and might have played a role in early UFOLOGY / Flying Saucers and a break away civilization.   We chat about the anomalous effect that Brown discovered as a teen and the sketch of a TV that Farnsworth did as a teen. Is synthetic gravity possible? Nuclear fusion back then? We also get into Weinstein on JRE, the Beifield-Brown effect, MIB realm, time travel, tethered saucers, NRO, the star in a jar, and some of Malcolm Bendall's work.   In the second half we get into the USS Eldrige, all the pop culture nods to Brown and Farnsworth - Fringe, Futurama, Back to the Future, American Hustle and Projekt Saucer. Did the Philadelphia Experiment actually happen? What is Paul's pet theory? What about Oppenheimer? What was the Caroline Group, how long were they around for and are they still? Is there a higher intelligence in the Universe? What happened to Brown at Pearl Harbour? Did Farnsworth's 'fusion device' power Brown's Saucer. Why would he move to Laurel Canyon and then Catalina Island? Coincidence... that that island is one of the hottest UFO spots?   We also get into Simulation, quantum mechanics, the medium is the message, the device, the ether and David Grusch. Are people making stars in the jars now?   Paul Schatzkin has been described variously as a visionary, gadfly, serial entrepreneur, Internet pioneer, staunch McLuhanist, author, occasional bomb-thrower, guitarist and songwriter. He was born in New York City and raised in Springsteen Country (Monmouth County, NJ) He has spent the first two decades of twenty-first century researching and writing these two biographies of obscure scientists from the twentieth.   ttbrown.com farnovision.com https://www.incorrigiblearts.com/ fusor.net   See links to stuff we chatted about: https://www.howtube.com/series/BdlpJhzi Malcolm Bendall's work https://www.strikefoundation.earth/ Bendall's website https://www.jrepodcast.com/episode/joe-rogan-experience-1945-eric-weinstein/ https://www.reddit.com/r/disclosure/comments/16fjvf5/ufo_whistleblower_dave_grusch_tells_me_everything/ https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/22198 The Hunt for Zero Point https://adultbrain.ca/the-flying-saucers-are-real-by-donald-keyoe/     To gain access to the second half of show and our Plus feed for audio and podcast please clink the link http://www.grimericaoutlawed.ca/support.   For second half of video (when applicable and audio) go to our Substack and Subscribe. https://grimericaoutlawed.substack.com/ or to our Locals  https://grimericaoutlawed.locals.com/   Help support the show, because we can't do it without ya. If you value this content with 0 ads, 0 sponsorships, 0 breaks, 0 portals and links to corporate websites, please assist. Many hours of unlimited content for free. Thanks for listening!!   Support the show directly: https://grimerica.ca/support-2/ Our Adultbrain Audiobook Podcast and Website: www.adultbrain.ca Our Audiobook Youtube Channel:  https://www.youtube.com/@adultbrainaudiobookpublishing/videos Grimerica Media Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@grimerica/featured Darren's book www.acanadianshame.ca Check out our next trip/conference/meetup - Contact at the Cabin www.contactatthecabin.com Other affiliated shows: www.grimerica.ca The OG Grimerica Show www.Rokfin.com/Grimerica Our channel on free speech Rokfin Join the chat / hangout with a bunch of fellow Grimericans  Https://t.me.grimerica https://www.guilded.gg/chat/b7af7266-771d-427f-978c-872a7962a6c2?messageId=c1e1c7cd-c6e9-4eaf-abc9-e6ec0be89ff3   Get your Magic Mushrooms delivered from: Champignon Magique  Mushroom Spores, Spore Syringes, Best Spore Syringes,Grow Mushrooms Spores Lab Get Psychedelics online Leave a review on iTunes and/or Stitcher: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/grimerica-outlawed http://www.stitcher.com/podcast/grimerica-outlawed Sign up for our newsletter http://www.grimerica.ca/news SPAM Graham = and send him your synchronicities, feedback, strange experiences and psychedelic trip reports!! [email protected] InstaGRAM https://www.instagram.com/the_grimerica_show_podcast/  Purchase swag, with partial proceeds donated to the show www.grimerica.ca/swag Send us a postcard or letter http://www.grimerica.ca/contact/ ART - Napolean Duheme's site http://www.lostbreadcomic.com/  MUSIC Tru Northperception, Felix’s Site sirfelix.bandcamp.com