On the podcast today we have Robert Jacobi and he's here to talk about his tech journey, and his role at Black Wall, formerly BotGuard. We talk about the OSI model, explaining how computer networks communicate through seven layers, from application to physical. Robert shares insights into Black Wall's focus on preventing bot attacks at a layer far from the website, mitigating risks before they hit the hosting company. There's also a brief discussion of WordPress plugins and the complexity of online security, with a nod to the hope of increasing listeners' understanding of these intricate processes. If you've ever wondered about the unseen layers of internet security and infrastructure, or the strategic moves involved in rebranding a tech company, this episode is for you.