Change has always been part of working life, but right now, it feels different. 

In this episode of the Less Chatter, More Matter podcast, we speak with Janine Ellison, experienced change leader and co-founder of Rethink Change, about how the profession is evolving and what that means for those working in it.

Drawing on insights from five years of Rethink Change conference data and hundreds of submissions from practitioners across Australia and New Zealand, Janine shares what’s shifted in the industry. From post-pandemic connection and community, to innovation and AI, to today’s pressing concern: the sheer volume and frequency of change.

We explore the paradox of the “invisible” change manager, the tension between go-live and true adoption, and why sustainable transformation depends on leadership ownership.

The conversation also tackles AI head-on, challenging change professionals to define their own partnership with emerging technology rather than passively waiting for direction.

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Links mentioned in this episode:

• Janine Ellison's LinkedIn
• Rethink Change
• 90 minute Strategy Power Session
• Public workshops and training
• Less Chatter, More Matter - Mel’s book
• Template packs
• Change Isn't Hard! - Mel's book
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