Sometimes you just need to hear the brutal truth to motivate you to take action and achieve your full potential.

Twenty years ago, my guest delivered a brutal truth that launched my journey of creating the Digital Growth Institute. My wife, Delena Dow Lay, told me my band sucked.

In this special episode, we look back at the beginnings of the Digital Growth Institute and the lessons we’ve learned along the way. Whether you’re in marketing, sales, or leadership at a fintech, Delena has wisdom to share with us all.

Join us as we discuss:

- The value of being honest with ourselves and experiencing failure

- Why it’s so important to reach out for help when you get stuck

- The need to disconnect from tech to reconnect with ourselves

- The origin of “Be well. Do good. And make your bed.”

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