If you think Division II volleyball is “second-best,” this episode will completely shift your perspective.

In Part 1 of this special two-part series, Susan sits down with national champion coaches Kim Cherniss and Danny Scott from Cal State San Bernardino to break down the real gap between D1 and D2 — and why it’s much smaller than most families think.

Kim and Danny share what truly matters in the college experience, why longevity and culture outweigh “shiny logos,” and the characteristics athletes need to thrive at the Division II level. Their insights from decades of coaching are eye-opening for parents and athletes navigating recruiting with assumptions or misinformation.

If your athlete is exploring different divisions — or if you’ve ever questioned what “fit” really means — this conversation is a must-listen.

Chapters

00:00 – Meet Kim Cherniss & Danny Scott: national champions with decades of experience

03:00 – What makes their coaching partnership work

06:30 – Why consistency and longevity matter more than prestige

09:00 – The gap between D1 and D2: what families misunderstand

12:00 – What type of athlete thrives at the D2 level

15:00 – Real examples of athletes who found their perfect fit

18:30 – Why recruiting is about culture, not logos

20:30 – Athletes who chose D2 over D1 — and why it worked

24:00 – What coaches actually look for in recruits

28:00 – How physicality and skill differ across divisions

32:00 – Final thoughts: why D2 is far more competitive than people think

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