The Fire These Times

170/ Facing the German Far Right w/ Musa Okwonga


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For episode 170, returning guest Musa Okwonga talks to Elia Ayoub about a piece he wrote, "The Hatred Is Accelerating", on racism and the far right in Germany. This was recorded on 31 August 2024, a day before the fascist AfD party won top place in Thuringia and second in Saxony in the state elections.

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Previous TFTT episodes with Musa Okwonga

  • We Need to Talk About Twitter w/ Musa Okwonga and Justin Salhani

  • Football is Political: #Qatar2022, Russia and What Comes Next w/ Musa Okwonga and Justin Salhani

  • Special 2022 FIFA World Cup Qatar Retrospective w/ Musa Okwonga, Fabien Goa and Justin Salhani

  • In the End, It Was All About Love w/ Musa Okwonga

  • Being the Good Immigrant in an Ungrateful Country w/ Musa Okwonga

  • Check out

    • 2018 article by Musa: Berliners have shown how to stop the march of the far right

    • The Far Right is Not Inevitable with Aurelien Mondon

    • The work of Jakob Springfeld and Philipp Ruch. Also: Polylulx and International Women* Space

    • First video essay on YouTube by Ayman Makarem: Zionism from the Standpoint of Its Victims and subscribe to our channel

    • Elia Ayoub's newsletter Hauntologies.net

    • Recommended reads and listens:

      • Critical Muslim: German Redemption Theology by Adnan Delalic

      • London Review of Books: Memory Failure by Pankaj Mishra

      • 972Mag: Germany’s anti-Palestinian censorship turns on Jews by Hebh Jamal

      • Jewish Currents' "On The Nose Podcast" The Trouble with Germany, part I

      • Jewish Currents' "On The Nose Podcast" The Trouble with Germany, part II

      • Granta: Once Again, Germany defines who is a Jew, part I by George Prochnik, Eyal Weizman & Emily Dische-Becker

      • Granta: Once Again, Germany defines who is a Jew, part II by George Prochnik, Eyal Weizman & Emily Dische-Becker

      • IWriteStuff.Blog: The Jewish and Arab Questions, and European Fascism by Elia Ayoub

      • The Palestinian Question as a Jewish Question by Raef Zreik

      • Books by Musa Okwonga (website):
        Please support your local bookshops and public libraries by ordering them there whenever possible.

        • In The End, It Was All About Love

        • One of Them: An Eton College Memoir

        • Striking Out: The Debut Novel from Superstar Striker Ian Wright

        • Raheem Sterling (Football Legends #1) with Stanley Chow

        • Eating Roses for Dinner

        • A Cultured Left Foot: The Eleven Elements of Footballing Greatness

        • Transcriptions: Transcriptions will be by Antidotezine and published on The Fire These Times.

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          • Elia Ayoub is on ⁠Mastodon⁠, Instagram⁠, Twitter⁠, and ⁠Bluesky⁠, and check out his newsletter and website

          • Credits:

            Host(s): Elia Ayoub | Guest(s): Musa Okwonga | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, Israa Abdel Fattah, Ayman Makarem and Leila Al-Shami | Music: ⁠⁠Rap and Revenge⁠⁠ | TFTT theme design: ⁠⁠Wenyi Geng⁠⁠ | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Molly Crabapple⁠⁠⁠ | Episode design: Elia Ayoub

            From The Periphery is built by Elia Ayoub, Leila Al-Shami, Ayman Makarem, Dana El Kurd, Karena Avedissian, Daniel Voskoboynik, Anna M, Aydın Yıldız, Ed S, Alice Bonfatti, Israa Abdel Fattah, with more joining soon!


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