Brett Powell started his career as an architect who consistently dug into the numbers behind every project he designed. 

Today, he is the Chief Financial Officer of a 120-person firm. 

As Partner and CFO of Cline, Brett sits at the point where architecture and business decisions collide. He and Rens explore what it takes to manage the financial side of a design firm, from understanding a P&L to structuring an acquisition, and why financial fluency remains one of the most underrated skills in the industry. 

A few more topics this week's conversation covers: 

• How Cline built a financially literate firm, from the metrics Brett uses to track performance to the ESOP structure that gives every employee ownership.
• Scaling and integrating two firms through a merger.
• How alignment improves when architects learn the language of developers.

If you're an architect who's had any interest in business financials, Brett is an important voice to listen to. 

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