Science and society have established that gender and sexuality are fluid. And fetishes can certainly cross into some furry territory. But what about species?

A large community of people identify not as human, but as other animals: foxes, wolves, etc. And in some cases, even as humanoid races from folklore, like elves and fairies.

So where does biological humanness end and spiritual identity begin? This week, Alli and Lindsey explore the fascinating communities of Otherkin. They speak with identities journalist Ana Valens, who covers Otherkin extensively for The Daily Dot.

Then they speak with Kasi Frost, a member of the Otherkin community, who explains their journey of self-discovery and online engagement.

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