Welcome to the spiral. Kat & Carol discuss why hotels are creepy, why our anxiety makes us love true crime stories and podcasts, how we would react in a life and death situation, and how women are always getting the short end of the stick. Carol complains about how people didn't want to be friends with her on her trip to the wilderness and Kat dishes on whether or not she would ever write a tell-all book.

We end the episode discussing our thoughts on The D’Amelio Show, online trolls and bullying, and social media stars. Come along for the spiral and let us distract you from your darkest Sunday scaries!

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