We talk Simon C Edgett, Vertical Madness, Ellie Pell, Jake Koteen, LOTR, Katniss, Law Dawg, Oak Miller, Gelato, Umstead 100 Mile Endurance Run and even a little CUT112. We talk trail running, Road Running, Marathons, and FKT's.

We also get into some books, and authors.

Perhaps Kurt was an ultra runner...

"I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center." ― Kurt Vonnegut

Outro music by Nick Byram

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