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Episode 183 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Citizens, Not Customers (Part 1 of 5: "The New Public Service" Series)
Episode OverviewIn this opening episode of our latest MLDC series, Seth Winterhalter challenges one of the most common assumptions in local government leadership: that residents are customers and cities are service providers.
Drawing from The New Public Service by Janet and Robert Denhardt, Seth explores how this mindset, while well-intentioned, can unintentionally reduce civic participation, strain trust, and disconnect leadership from the very people it serves. In contrast, a citizen-centered approach invites collaboration, dialogue, and shared responsibility.
This episode will reset your frame and offer practical ways to lead with your community, not just for them.
Key TakeawaysResidents are not consumers of city services—they are co-creators of community
Treating people like customers centers transactions; treating them like citizens centers shared values
“Public interest” isn’t discovered through surveys—it’s shaped through dialogue
The goal of government isn’t just efficient service—it’s meaningful engagement
Leadership in this framework shifts from “fixer” to facilitator of shared purpose
Real trust is built when people feel included early, not just consulted late
Monday: Citizens vs. customers Tuesday: Serving, not steering Wednesday: Valuing people over productivity Thursday: Engagement over control Friday: Integrity and trust as culture-shaping leadership tools
Special: Free 7-Day MLDC TrialThis week only, unlock:
All 5 podcast episodes in The New Public Service series
Daily written reflections to help you implement what you’re learning
Friday’s Virtual Book Club for live peer discussion
Full access to the MLDC platform + national leadership network → Start your 7-day free trial now at HaltingWinter.com
Book: The New Public Service by Janet & Robert Denhardt
MLDC: The Municipal Leadership Development Circle
Weekly Newsletter: The Leader’s Lens
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: www.HaltingWinter.com
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Episode 183 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Citizens, Not Customers (Part 1 of 5: "The New Public Service" Series)
Episode OverviewIn this opening episode of our latest MLDC series, Seth Winterhalter challenges one of the most common assumptions in local government leadership: that residents are customers and cities are service providers.
Drawing from The New Public Service by Janet and Robert Denhardt, Seth explores how this mindset, while well-intentioned, can unintentionally reduce civic participation, strain trust, and disconnect leadership from the very people it serves. In contrast, a citizen-centered approach invites collaboration, dialogue, and shared responsibility.
This episode will reset your frame and offer practical ways to lead with your community, not just for them.
Key TakeawaysResidents are not consumers of city services—they are co-creators of community
Treating people like customers centers transactions; treating them like citizens centers shared values
“Public interest” isn’t discovered through surveys—it’s shaped through dialogue
The goal of government isn’t just efficient service—it’s meaningful engagement
Leadership in this framework shifts from “fixer” to facilitator of shared purpose
Real trust is built when people feel included early, not just consulted late
Monday: Citizens vs. customers Tuesday: Serving, not steering Wednesday: Valuing people over productivity Thursday: Engagement over control Friday: Integrity and trust as culture-shaping leadership tools
Special: Free 7-Day MLDC TrialThis week only, unlock:
All 5 podcast episodes in The New Public Service series
Daily written reflections to help you implement what you’re learning
Friday’s Virtual Book Club for live peer discussion
Full access to the MLDC platform + national leadership network → Start your 7-day free trial now at HaltingWinter.com
Book: The New Public Service by Janet & Robert Denhardt
MLDC: The Municipal Leadership Development Circle
Weekly Newsletter: The Leader’s Lens
LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter
Website: www.HaltingWinter.com
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