Terry speaks with Richie Cavalera of Incite about their album “Savage New Times,” the writing process behind its short, hard‑hitting tracks, and the band’s shift toward a more organic recording approach. Richie discusses lineup changes, lyrical themes drawn from personal challenges, and the freedom of creating outside imposed constraints. He talks through vocal approach, inspirations, recording with Steve Evetts, and plans for touring following runs with Hatebreed and Six Feet Under.

Terry also speaks with Gregor Mackintosh of Paradise Lost about the band’s 17th album “Ascension,” its musical direction, and the influence of revisiting “Icon.” Gregor explains the selection of early singles, working with visual artists on videos and album art, and recording across multiple studios including the church‑based NBS facility. He discusses using his Hapás guitars and signature pickups, producing the album himself, touring with King Diamond, and the future of his projects Strigoi and Host. The episode also includes a selection of Kiwi metal.

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