This one is the tough one, the one Jon has been avoiding successfully for 18 episodes-- a listener request at that-- TRANS POLICY in jail and prison.  Now, Jon left corrections in 2015, just slightly before the rational thought in the universe decayed, and so that he doesn't sound like an ignorant asshat, he brought along two friends still in the CORRECTIN' BIZ to tell him what it's like these days in facilities which force at the point of the gun the greatest societal controversy of the age: how do we accept, treat and deal with the transgender community/agenda?  It's a hotbed of opinions and thoughts and frankly we all just do the best we can. Carli is in this one.