Make an excellent, heartfelt, scary film and then follow it up with a pile of crap because we're talking about It: Chapter One and It: Chapter Two! Kat and Jocelyn discuss the challenges inherent in adapting one of Stephen King's longest and unwieldiest properties, skewed identity politics, some excellent performances, and some audacious child actors.

This episode brought to you in part by Rothy's. Rothy’s is the everyday flat for life on the go. It will blow your mind that they’re made from recycled plastic water bottles, because they’re the softest shoe you’ll put on your feet. A major added bonus? They’re machine washable. We love our Rothy’s and know you will too! Right now Rothy’s has an amazing deal for our listeners: go to Rothys.com/Hateit to check out all their options.

This episode brought to you in part by Skillshare. Skillshare is an online learning community with thousands of inspiring classes for creative and curious people. Explore new skills, deepen existing passions, and get lost in creativity. Explore your creativity at www.skillshare.com/LOVE and the first 1,000 people to use our link will get a free trial of Skillshare Premium Membership. Receive free access to thousands of classes for a limited time.

This episode brought to you in part by Ritual. When Ritual set out to develop the vitamin essential for women, they wanted something simple, effective, and backed by real science. Ritual challenged some of the top scientists to dream up the perfect daily vitamin for women. The result is everything a vitamin should be. Right now Ritual is offering our listeners 10% off during your first three months! Visit www.ritual.com/HATEIT to start your ritual today.

Edited by Andrew Ivimey and produced for the From Superheroes network. Visit www.FromSuperheroes.com for more podcasts, YouTube series, web comics, and more.

IHIBILI Logo by Cubbyhole Studio www.cubbyhole.studio