In this week's It's All Journalism podcast, producer Michael O'Connell talks to Molly de Aguilar, the program director for media and communications, and Josh Sterns, the director of journalism sustainability, at the Geraldine R. Dodge Foundation. They discuss a newly-released report about their 18 months at the foundation's Local News Lab, an initiative exploring new ways for local news outlets to engage with their readers and identify new streams of sustaining revenue.