Can our current social movements overcome political inertia to save us from the climate crisis, or is apocalyptic optimism our best path forward?

In this episode of A Climate Change, we speak with Dr. Dana R. Fisher, Director at the Center for Environment, Community and Equity, Professor at the School of International Service, and author of Saving Ourselves, about how climate activism, apocalyptic optimism, and community resilience can challenge fossil fuel interests and shape stronger environmental policy. We explore youth protests, consumer boycotts, and the power of science-informed climate crisis strategies to turn despair into action and hope.

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Also, check out her TED Talk: How to be an "apocalyptic optimist’.

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Dana R. Fisher Bio:

Dana R. Fisher is Director of the Center for Environment, Community, & Equity and Professor at American University’s School of International Service. A leading expert on climate politics, civic engagement, and activism, she is also a Non-Resident Senior Fellow at Brookings and Chair of the ASA’s Political Sociology Section. Fisher has authored seven books, including Saving Ourselves, and contributed to the IPCC’s Sixth Assessment. Her work has been featured across major media, including CNN, NPR, TIME, and The Washington Post.

More About American University’s School of International Service

American University’s School of International Service (SIS) is a top-10 school of international affairs. Located in Washington, DC, SIS prepares 2,000 graduate and undergraduate students annually for global service in government, nonprofits, and business. It connects them to an active international network of more than 25,000 alumni. Our students graduate prepared to combine knowledge with practice and wage peace in our world.

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