What can we learn from non-traditional sources if we're willing to look at things differently? How can we break out of our often self-imposed boundaries to see what the universe is offering us? For example, this podcast is broadly about "K12 education," but it's really about thinking and doing things differently to get different results. And in the case of this episode, what can a fly fishing guide, Spencer Seim, tell us about leadership? And what can we learn from seemingly random events?