In this clip from my conversation with Joel Lawrence, president of the Center for Pastor Theologians (CPT), we talk about the upcoming 10th Annual CPT Conference: Good Shepherds – Pastoral Identity and the Future of the Church.

Listen to the whole conversation here.

The CPT is focused on forming pastor theologians to shepherd the church in our complex world. We equip pastors as theologians, grounding local church ministry in robust yet accessible theology.

From the conference website: "The church needs good shepherds, pastors who serve the body of Christ from a deeply rooted identity. We are at a pivotal time for the American church, a time when it is critical for pastors to be humble shepherds providing theological wisdom for the church as she navigates our complex world."

I’m honored to be one of the plenary speakers at this year’s gathering. In our conversation, Joel shares why the CPT chose this theme, what pastors can expect, and why recovering a biblical vision of shepherding is critical for the health of the church today.

👉 Learn more about CPT and the Good Shepherds Conference: https://www.cptconference.com/

If you’re a pastor, theologian, or church leader who cares about the future of the church, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

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