In this episode, Xavier Bonilla has a dialogue with Shadi Hamid about democracy, liberalism, and foreign policy. They discuss democracy and how it is usually defined, what constitutes a “real” democracy, and the differences between liberalism and democracy. They discuss Islam and its various strands, challenges with democracy during the Arab spring, and why the United States chooses to get involved in some countries and not others. They also talk about positive examples of democracy abroad, the future of democracy in the Middle East, and many more topics.

Shadi Hamid is a Senior Fellow in the Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings. He is also the Assistant Professor of Islamic Studies at Fuller Seminary. He is the Contributing Writer at The Atlantic. He has his Bachelors and Masters from Georgetown University and his DPhil in Politics from Oxford University. He is the author of numerous books including the most recent, The Problem of Democracy: America, the Middle East, and the Rise and Fall of an Idea. You can find his work here and here. Twitter: @shadihamid

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