Alter Everything

204: The Surprising Connection Between Data Foundations and AI's Value Ceiling


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In this episode of Alter Everything, we sit down with Fern Halper to discuss how most companies are now hitting a stage where productivity gains plateau because foundational elements like data, governance, and measurement are overlooked. Fern, a seasoned data and AI expert, reveals how organizations often chase quick wins with off-the-shelf tools, only to hit a wall when results stop improving or are unmeasurable.

Panelists:
  • Fern Halper, VP of Research @ TDWI -  LinkedIn
  • Joshua Burkhow, Chief Evangelist @ Alteryx -  @JoshuaB , LinkedIn

Resources and Links

  • Data Makes the World Go Round
  • EU AI Act

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0:00 Opening Question

2:01 Why 2026 Is a Building Year

7:59 The Value Ceiling

14:40 Measuring Real AI Progress

17:56 Why AI Governance Is Different

20:06 Governing Agentic Systems

27:34 Original Thought as Competitive Edge

32:09 Designing for Augmentation

35:36 Predictive Analytics and Agentic AI

38:54 Lightning Round

42:08 Moving Beyond Productivity Theater

44:17 Key Takeaways

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