On this week's It's All Journalism, producer Michael O'Connell talks to Tiffany Shackelford, executive director of podcast our partner the Association of Alternative Newsmedia about AAN's 2016 Conference in Austin. We talk about some of the big guests that will be there along with all the after hours activities AAN has planned for attendees. Michael also gives a progress report on the book he's writing about how to start a podcast.