On this episode, Yvette and Cynthia analyze Lassiter v. Department of Social Services, the case that held that counsel is not required for parental termination proceedings, criticize the Trump administration's proposal to widen the definition of "public charge" for green card eligibility, and share the soft office skills they have learned as first generation professionals.

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Transition song: Ryan Little – Lucy’s Song