Strap in everybody. This week, Kat & Carol sit down with a very special guest - Kat's friend, Chris Hupf! We're talking about all of the things: toxic masculinity and anxiety, what it's like being a guy with anxiety, and the absolute plague of overthinking. We also chat about ASMR, childhood sports & hobbies, pillow talk, pick-me-girl's and football, and what it means to be a "gentle lover." Come along for our dissent into an anxious spiral!

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