Cailey Barker was an analyst at BlackRock for many years. He recently took a job as managing director of Xcelsior Capital, a private credit specialist that is part of the broader Wogen commodities trading group. Wogen is one of the major players in specialty metals trading, a niche mining area that often seems opaque to the more general investor. Here, Cailey takes us under the hood, and tells us where he sees opportunity in the specialty metals space. The conversation then broadens out into the state of the broader mining sector, and specifically gold.