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Discover two cidermaking techniques that are also used in winemaking, called Maderisation and Bâtonnage. We delve into both of these topics in Part 3 of the Quarantine Quad Series called "Ask Ryan" with Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider, Ontario Canada answering questions from Cider Chat listeners.
Maderisation: What is this technique and can it be used with cider?
Bâtonnage: are there any short term benefits from bâtonnage or does one need to "stir up the barrel" for a long period (1 year at the least) to benefit from this technique?
Listen Part 1 and Part 2 of the Quarantine Quad Series.
Maderisation - The barrels are cooked - sometimes for years. Developing flavors called "maderised".
FieldBird is planning to do a maderized cider from the 2020 harvest
The risk of maderisation is cooking a barrel to much
The final product will be around 17-18%
Battonage: Is it worth it if you don't have a full year to do Bâtonnage on a barrel?
There are short term benefits.
In wine, a Sauvignon Blanc, has rich tropical flavors which come from a rich reductive state,
At FieldBird, they save lees in the freezer.
Cracking - the freeze helps the lees cells break down.
Contact for Ryan Monkman at FieldBird Cider
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Discover two cidermaking techniques that are also used in winemaking, called Maderisation and Bâtonnage. We delve into both of these topics in Part 3 of the Quarantine Quad Series called "Ask Ryan" with Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider, Ontario Canada answering questions from Cider Chat listeners.
Maderisation: What is this technique and can it be used with cider?
Bâtonnage: are there any short term benefits from bâtonnage or does one need to "stir up the barrel" for a long period (1 year at the least) to benefit from this technique?
Listen Part 1 and Part 2 of the Quarantine Quad Series.
Maderisation - The barrels are cooked - sometimes for years. Developing flavors called "maderised".
FieldBird is planning to do a maderized cider from the 2020 harvest
The risk of maderisation is cooking a barrel to much
The final product will be around 17-18%
Battonage: Is it worth it if you don't have a full year to do Bâtonnage on a barrel?
There are short term benefits.
In wine, a Sauvignon Blanc, has rich tropical flavors which come from a rich reductive state,
At FieldBird, they save lees in the freezer.
Cracking - the freeze helps the lees cells break down.
Contact for Ryan Monkman at FieldBird Cider
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Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!
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