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234: The Cloud Pod Decrees I’m not a Good Cloud – but I’m not a Bad Cloud Either


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Welcome to episode 234 of The Cloud Pod podcast – where the forecast is always cloudy! This week your hosts Justin and Ryan are bringing you all the latest news from the cloud, including latest earnings news (you know you want it), a discussion about whether cloud is “bad” from one of repatriation’s biggest advocates, Oxide’s new cloud computer (it’s SO pretty) and a look at some of latest updates on the AWS European Sovereign Cloud. 

Titles we almost went with this week:

The Cloud Pod is Sovereign 

We Avoid the Oxide Rust at TCP

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Pre-Show

01:00 Follow Up: Wait – Is Cloud Bad?

  • We’ve talked previously on the show about DHH – David Heinemeier Hansson – who is the one big example of cloud repatriation. 
    • Well, maybe not the biggest  but the most vocal for sure when it comes to advocating for a return to on-prem. 
    • Forrest Brazel wrote in his recent newsletter about the back and forth between pro-cloud people and those who support DHH’s move from AWS back to his DC. I think his rebuttal is the best one out there. 
    • He basically broke down the decision on cloud or datacenter to a 2×2 box… Low IT Competence with Low Growth or High Growth, and High IT Competency with Low Growth or High Growth.  
      • He basically says Basecamp falls into High IT Competency with low growth, which makes datacenter more attractive. 
      • 03:43 Justin- “Kelsey Hightower pointed out rightfully the 15 years of cloud helped DHH even be able to do this, because being able to do a cloud exit of the size and the complexity of what he does have without cloud technologies that enabled some of those things, it would have been difficult for him to do this going back. Declarative infrastructure, containerization – all that stuff is big cloud advances that were brought to the world that he’s not benefiting from in his data center…”

        General News this Week:

        06:30  Oxide Launches the World’s First Commercial Cloud Computer

        • If you’re looking at the infrastructure you should run your repatriation on, we would like to suggest you take a look at Oxide Computers.
        • Founded by Steve Tuck, Jessie Frazelle, and Bryan Cantrill, they have officially launched their first product, which has been in development for the last 4 years. 
        • While Major cloud providers have built their own cloud computing services, Oxide is the first company to be selling a commercial version of an out-of-the-box cloud computer for individual companies t
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