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October 22Why Tesla needs its cars to fly
Tesla recently showed off a new version of its Roadster. Well, a new version of its old version of the Roadster, anyway. But this one flies! The Verge's Andy Hawkins joins the show to explain the last decade of the Roadster saga, make sense of the flying and kickflipping new vehicle, and cast out into the future of Tesla's cars for humans. If there even is one.

Further reading:
The incredible flying Tesla Roadster is just for show

The Tesla Roadster flew, drove upside down, and hit 60mph in under a second

Trump says Sundar Pichai talked him out of renaming the Atlantic Ocean

1Password lets AI agents use your passwords without seeing them

The world’s first triple 200-megapixel cameraphone is great

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38 min
October 21How we really feel about the iPhone Duo | Livestream
iPhone Duo reviews are out today and... it's complicated. David Pierce, Nilay Patel and senior smart phone reviewer Allison Johnson talk through The Verge's review and answer your questions LIVE.

Further reading:
The iPhone Duo is a messy, expensive, good time

iPhone Duo review: messy, expensive fun

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1 hr 6 min
October 20AI is dividing the math world in two
Over the last several months, the AI industry has set its sights on some of the problems that have stymied mathematicians for years. In some cases, AI models have made huge progress — though exactly how much isn't always obvious. The Verge's Robert Hart explains what OpenAI and others have actually accomplished, the disastrously bad ways the companies have interacted with researchers, and whether there's a future left for human mathematics.
Further reading:
⁠Spotify pulls 50 million AI slop and spam tracks from its recommendations⁠

⁠Adobe Lightroom mobile can now open closed eyes in photos with a simple tap⁠

⁠Wii Sports is back on the Switch 2, and it rules⁠

⁠All the drama around AI’s takeover of mathematics | The Verge⁠

⁠OpenAI keeps bulldozing mathematicians | The Verge⁠⁠

⁠OpenAI just wants to win | The Verge⁠⁠

⁠The AI takeover of mathematics has begun | The Verge⁠⁠

⁠‘Pure insanity’: Mathematicians will need years to make sense of OpenAI’s latest drop | The Verge⁠⁠

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44 min
October 19Why your favorite creator is building an app
Creator life involves using a lot of software. Bad software. Stephen Robles is one of the creators who decided to build something better, for himself and for his community. He tells David how he thinks about his responsibility as a developer, how he makes apps, and how AI is changing the way he builds things for his audience.

Further reading:
Apple teases MacBook Pro event next week

You Can See Everything has the biggest opening weekend for a doc in 20 years

TikTok says ban of Musk documentary account was ‘an error’

Video game ownership bill introduced in Congress

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42 min
October 16Apple's HomeView has an app problem
Well, it's been a couple of days, and David and Nilay have some more information — and a bunch of new questions — about the Apple HomeView. They also talk about the latest Gemini model, and whether building the best model matters if you can't build the best products around them. They then debate the merits of returning to X, why none of the supposed Twitter replacements worked, the latest in Brendan Carr nonsense, and more.

Further reading:
HomeView doesn’t natively support any video apps yet — not even Apple’s
Apple’s new Find My-compatible remote will also work with your old Apple TV
The AI race is back on
Google finally releases Gemini 4 Argon
Google brings its AI coding platform to its Gemini app on Mac.
Google makes it easier to launch your vibe-coded apps
OpenAI employee arrested for allegedly planting a bug in a conference room
OpenAI claims an ex-employee took its product plans and presented them to Apple
Now that Character.AI is going bankrupt, what happens to all of its users’ data?
Daring Fireball: X Once Again Marks the Spot
Platformer: Does intelligence need a hard cap?
SpaceX announces plan to become a ‘major mobile carrier’
JPMorgan Chase is keeping AI agents out.
Xbox is officially embracing the chaos of AI-powered game ports
Global smartphone sales just hit a 14-year low.
Silicon Valley is falling in line with Trump’s attempt to rename AI
The US government launched a “Super Intelligence” website.
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0:00 CarPlay Banter
01:36 HomeView App Confusion
03:40 CarPlay as Home OS
08:31 Apple Hardware Software Bet
13:28 Should It Just Be an iPad?
14:31 Gemini 4 Returns
16:18 Meta Muse Strategy
19:54 Google Product Dilemma
26:28 OpenAI Bugging Scandal
29:49 Character AI Bankruptcy
32:31 Bankrupt Data Goldmine
33:00 Privacy After Shutdown
36:55 Why People Return to X
39:35 Threads Fumbled It
40:49 X Owns AI Talk
49:17 Who Should Use X
49:57 Reporters And Sources
53:00 Video Platforms Win
54:44 Gruber Gets It Wrong
01:01:29 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:02:40 Execution Livestream Fallout
01:07:21 Sprint Merger Fallout
01:08:48 Dish Spectrum to SpaceX
01:09:44 Can Starlink Compete
01:11:30 SpaceX Phone Rumors
01:13:55 Smartphone Sales Slump
01:18:37 Agents vs Websites
01:24:21 Why UI Still Matters
01:26:43 Super Intelligence Rebrand
01:30:37 AI Game Decompiling
01:36:35 Wrap Up and Plugs

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1 hr 37 min
October 15Everything's recording everybody. What now?
Meta just shipped a pair of smart glasses with no camera — a change that both David and The Verge's Victoria Song are excited about. But these glasses, like the new product from Amazon Bee and seemingly everything else now, are still ready and willing to record the world around you at all times. What do we do in a world where everything, everywhere, might be recording? And can tech companies figure out a way to make us feel better about it?

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Further reading:
Prep your cart before iPhone Duo preorders open tomorrow

OpenAI agrees not to use trade secrets it allegedly took from Apple

Your secrets aren’t safe with this cute robot toy — they’re on Chinese servers ready to be hacked

I don’t miss the camera on the Ray-Ban Meta Audio glasses

Amazon’s always-listening Bee wearable can now help you buy stuff

We can’t just change the definition of ‘recording’

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40 min
October 14The $8 million AI music scam
A man named Mike Smith was recently sentenced to 18 months in prison, and a fine in excess of $8 million, for creating an AI system that faked billions of streams and earned him millions in royalties. Wired's Kate Knibbs explains how Smith pulled it off, how he got caught, and what this case means for the internet's growing slop problems.
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Further reading:
⁠Apple’s HomeView ad is confusing to everyone except parents | The Verge⁠
⁠Ocarina of Time’s Switch 2 remake feels modern — and terrifying | The Verge⁠
⁠We might not have to wait 13 years for the next GTA | The Verge⁠
⁠Epic is bringing Fortnite to Linux | The Verge⁠
⁠JPMorgan Chase is keeping AI agents out. | The Verge⁠
⁠Wired: Spotify Confirms Streaming Fraud After Kalshi Trader Cries Foul⁠
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38 min
October 13HomeView: Apple just got serious about the smart home | Livestream
Apple just announced its long-rumored HomeView smart home hub. But that's not all... there are cameras, thermostats and a door lock co-developed with LG and Schneider Electric, refreshed HomePod Minis, even a new Apple TV 4K. The Verge's senior smart home reviewer Jennifer Pattinson Tuohy joined Nilay Patel and David Pierce LIVE to discuss and take your questions about Apple's massive play to take over your house.

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Further reading:
Apple launches HomeView, its first smart display for the home

The new Apple Home Collection includes a video doorbell, smart lock, and more

Apple announces the HomePod Mini 2, but it isn’t ready for Siri AI at launch

The new Apple TV 4K has built-in microphones so you can talk to Siri AI

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1 hr 21 min
October 09The AI is in the computer
It's gadget season. More specifically, it's apparently "new computer for your new AI" season. David and Nilay talk through a slew of announcements — Amazon's Alexa Tablets, Microsoft's Surface Laptop Ultra, the new Googlebooks, and Apple's upcoming smart home launch — to figure out if anyone has the right idea about the future of computing, and where the AI is supposed to live. After that, it's time for Brendan Carr is a Dummy, our thoughts on the Paramount / Warner / Skydance merger, and much more.

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Read more about the topics discussed in today's 1 hour, 41 minute podcast:
⁠Amazon’s Alexa Tablets are powerful, impressive, and designed to take on iPad ⁠

⁠Hands-on with Amazon’s Alexa Tablet 12 Pro and its wild new matte display ⁠

⁠Amazon is phasing out Fire Tablets because they weren’t ‘giving customers what they were asking for⁠’

⁠Amazon’s new Kids Tablets let parents manage access to the Google Play store

⁠Apple announces surprise ‘Welcome home’ launch event⁠

⁠Apple and LG team up on new smart home gear, starting with a lock, doorbell, and thermostat⁠

⁠New leaks provide our first look at Apple and LG’s smart home devices

⁠Everything announced at Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra event ⁠

⁠The Surface Laptop Ultra finally has a release date — and a starting price of $2,599⁠

⁠Microsoft’s Surface Laptop Ultra has built-in magnetic USB-C charging ⁠

⁠How Microsoft built its MacBook Pro competitor ⁠

⁠Surface RTX Spark Dev Box is available for preorder for $5,999 ⁠

⁠The first Nvidia RTX Spark laptops cost up to $7,000 ⁠

⁠Microsoft is giving Copilot more control over Windows and your files

Our first five impressions of Googlebooks — exciting but underbaked

Android’s physical navigation buttons are back on Googlebooks, but not the way you think

Google admits not every Android app runs great on Intel Googlebooks

Politico: ‘Head on a guillotine’: ABC says Trump’s threats are already swaying coverage

ChatGPT’s ‘Intelligent UI’ update fills its responses with pictures, charts, and buttons

Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery complete $110 billion media megamerger

HBO Max and Paramount Plus will merge into a single streamer under Skydance

CNN’s boss will remain as Paramount and WBD merge into Skydance

Skydance is merging Paramount and Warner Bros. Discovery’s games teams.

Sam Altman says ‘some bad things’ will happen, but AI is totally worth it
0:00 Cold Open
00:37 David’s back!
01:10 Parenting Chaos Update
02:49 Gadget News Rundown
03:47 New Amazon Alexa Tablets
05:15 Panos Strategy Shift
06:31 Play Store Bet
11:17 Default Android Tablet
13:18 Ads and Pricing Fears
15:30 Amazon Great Products
21:20 Matte Display Debate
25:01 Apple Smart Home Tease
26:12 Siri AI Reality Check
29:08 Smart Home Too Complex
33:37 Candy Crush Question
34:56 iPad Multiuser Problem
39:04 Microsoft AI Surface Push
40:35 Local AI Computing Shift
47:22 Magnetic USB C Charging
48:37 Google Book Laptop Confusion
54:20 AI Agents Need A Surface
58:50 Skepticism About Agents
01:07:46 Brendan Carr is a Dummy
01:09:23 ABC License Chilling Effect
01:11:24 Brendan Carr Ownership Cap
01:12:30 Cable Companies Sue Back
01:14:44 SXSW Corruption Game
01:15:50 Skydance Mega Merger
01:18:04 Debt Layoffs Streamer Cuts
01:22:58 Go90 Scale Returns
01:24:02 Netflix Loses Its Edge
01:30:44 ChatGPT Interactive UI
01:37:47 Sam Altman Tradeoffs
01:44:49 Wrap Up And Plugs

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1 hr 46 min
October 08The many pluses and minuses of Alexa Plus
Amazon is determined to turn Alexa Plus into a do-everything AI assistant that can compete with Gemini, ChatGPT, Claude, and the rest. But after a year of testing, The Verge's Jen Tuohy has mixed feelings on how it's all going. And on whether a new tablet is the right way to fix it.

Further reading:
It appears .agent and .agi are about to be the hot new domains

GTA VI leaks continue with a lengthy (and very nude) gameplay video

GTA VI will have in-game podcasts and at least six radio stations

Joe Rogan and Spotify renew massive podcast deal

Alexa Plus is better at running my home, but it’s not ready to run my life

Hands-on with Amazon’s Alexa Tablet 12 Pro and its wild new matte display

Amazon is phasing out Fire Tablets because they weren’t ‘giving customers what they were asking for’
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35 min

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The Vergecast is the flagship daily podcast from The Verge about small gadgets, Big Tech, and everything in between. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and David Pierce hang out and make sense of the week’s…