Join Kat and Carol this week as we dive in and discuss annoying anxiety "cures" that are always suggested, loyalty in friendship, and what is on our Christmas wishlist. We also talk about having kids, parenting TikToks, and having baby fever...but not really. We wrap up the episode with an iconic still stewing or survived it story from Kat, telling us all about her (absolutely awful) first kiss! You don't wanna miss this one, cause she's definitely still stewing. Tune in & join the spiral!

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