Buckle up for a fabulous interview with Janine Queenin and Nicole Markel, hosts of the Messy Middle Roadtrip Podcast.

In this fascinating and very wide-ranging interview we talk about almost everything under the sun from perimenopause to travel, from toxic products to being a ninja warrior! And all things midlife in between.

We cover

• How Janine and Nicole came up with the concept and the name for their podcast, Messy Middle RoadTrip Getting beyond the invisibility of getting older and the embarrassment of menopause Changing society's narratives around our worship of youth How midlife women are a huge untapped sector of society How we can sometimes make ourselves invisible by our poor self-talk Fighting against the urge to step back Starting new businesses in midlife Disconnecting through travel Eliminating toxicity from the products we use everyday Finding inspiration for a business in illness Defeating psoriatic arthritis and improving psoriasis through eating clean, using clean products and lifestyle changes, rather than medication How labels can in be incredibly misleading Regulations on products are woefully inadequate and worse in the US than in Europe How the term fragrance can be used to hide a multiple of nasty ingredients In the US only 11 harmful ingredients are banned. In Europe the figure is 1300! How hormonal changes in midlife can highlight issues that need to be dealt and it's important to listen to our bodies How stress can create a perfect storm of factors leading to ill health How positive natural solutions can be massively transformative The importance of not letting disease define you Trial and error in starting a business and not wanting to have a boss any more The importance of thinking about the environment when it comes to travelling The prevalence of greenwashing – making environmental claims that cannot be backed up How product formulations change when the small business sells out to a bigger company The impact of laundry detergent on skin The impact of inhaling vapours from synthetic cleaning products especially at home when it's cold outside The importance of checking labels on products The impact of the toxic body buildup of ingredients on fertility and other issues including our experience of menopause The amazing things midlife women are doing and that they talk about on the Messy Middle Roadtrip podcast How little we know about teenager's lives The spirit of midlife women and their willingness to share The importance of talking about health issues in particular The power behind owning your story and being proud of it

And lots more!

Find out more about Janine and Nicole, their work and the fabulous Messy Middle Road Trip podcast on their website.

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