This week Kara’s telling us about a couple of sweet old ladies who were….not at all sweet old ladies.

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Sources:  

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/ca-court-of-appeal/1267298.html

https://www.ranker.com/list/black-widow-grandmas-california/ella-talkin

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10182775/New-podcast-details-two-old-ladies-killed-homeless-men-attempt-insurance-money.html

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-10182775/New-podcast-details-two-old-ladies-killed-homeless-men-attempt-insurance-money.html

https://medium.com/california-dreaming/helen-golay-and-olga-rutterschmidt-the-black-widow-murderers-449f3606f3ab

https://www.oxygen.com/black-widow-murders/crime-news/los-angeles-black-widow-murders-explained

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