In 19th century Scotland, Glasgow socialite Madeleine Smith was accused of poisoning and subsequently murdering her secret French lover in case that gained notoriety around the world.

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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66006113

https://www.scottishlegal.com/articles/our-legal-heritage-new-forensic-science-podcast-puts-not-proven-madeleine-smith-case-under-the-microscope Scottish Legal News

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Smith Wikipedia

https://libcat.csglasgow.org/web/arena/smith Glasgow Libraries

https://archive.org/stream/trialmadeleines00smitgoog/trialmadeleines00smitgoog_djvu.txt Internet Archive

https://www.archive.org/stream/trialofmadeleine00smituoft/trialofmadeleine00smituoft_djvu.txt Internet Archive

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During a routine night flight in 1978, Frederick Valentich reported a disturbing encounter over the Bass Strait, moments before his transmission ended.

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Sources:  

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-21/frederick-valentich-ufo-disappearance-40-years-on/10397438

https://www.archives.gov/research/military/air-force/air-force-ufo-records

https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-10/pilots_spatial_disorientation.pdf

https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/jal1628.pdf

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From Plato’s Atlantis to a newly discovered sunken settlement along the Silk Road, this episode traces why drowned cities still haunt us. 

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https://nypost.com/2025/11/14/science/archeologists-discover-an-atlantis-like-metropolis-at-the-bottom-of-a-lake/

https://www.rgo.ru/en/article/underwater-archaeology-lake-issyk-kul

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-hellenic-studies/article/platos-atlantis-story/9E6E7F6C2A59E9F6F6C8C0D7B3A4B6D2

https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0175%3Atext%3DTim.

https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0175%3Atext%3DCrit.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantis-legendary-island

https://www.britannica.com/place/Helike-ancient-city-Greece

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/sunken-city-thonis-heracleion-egypt

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/santorini-volcano-minoan-eruption

https://www.britannica.com/place/Pavlopetri

https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Theosophy-religious-movement

https://www.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/atlantis/

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24036125

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In 2011, an entire French family was found murdered in their home—except for the father, Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès, who vanished without a trace. Was he a desperate man who took his own life, or did he carefully plan the perfect disappearance?

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https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20110506-murdered-mother-and-children-letter-father-fake

https://www.thelocal.fr/20110609/296

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dupont_de_Ligonn%C3%A8s_murders_and_disappearance

https://www.france24.com/en/20191012-xavier-dupont-de-ligonn%C3%A8s-murder-mystery-and-an-8-year-manhunt

https://casefilepodcast.com/case-129-the-dupont-de-ligonnes-family/

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Time for another round of creepy and/or weird stories from you guys!

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Listener Emails

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Phil Gall disappeared from Dayton, Ohio in 1994. Did he willingly disappear to start a new life? Was he killed by real life vampires (actual theory)? Why did Netflix abandon a documentary about his case? SO. MANY. QUESTIONS.

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Sources:  

https://www.ohioattorneygeneral.gov/Files/Law-Enforcement/Investigator/Ohio-Missing-Persons/Missing-Adults-1/Gall

https://websleuths.com/threads/oh-george-phillip-gall-26-dayton-13-oct-1994.116162/

https://charleyproject.org/case/george-phillip-gall

https://614now.com/2024/hot-topics/was-this-missing-ohio-man-kidnapped-and-killed-by-real-life-vampires

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/retired-investigator-wants-1994-case-opened/nfcIMRXC6P3EDnGDElL4NK/

https://www.daytondailynews.com/news/web-extra-dayton-underground/vay4DjVjfOPoV8n6VESUdN/

https://www.bgr.com/entertainment/netflix-wont-release-this-insane-doc-about-a-missing-man-allegedly-sacrificed-by-vampires/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gratefuldoe/comments/1e1r097/could_george_phillip_gall_be_the_dallas_county/

https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP17579

https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3762dmoh.html

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Jacob “the Dutchman” Waltz left behind more questions than answers, and his mine has been pulling people into the Superstition Mountains ever since. Let’s talk about the legend, the clues, and the people who went looking for his gold.

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https://www.legendsofamerica.com/az-lostdutchman/

https://www.desertsun.com/story/life/2015/03/21/lost-dutchman-mine-superstition-mountains/25107771/

https://www.nps.gov/articles/000/the-superstition-mountains-and-the-legend-of-the-lost-dutchman-s-gold.htm

https://www.pinalcountyaz.gov/Departments/OpenSpaceTrails/Documents/LostDutchmanMineHistory.pdf

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-history/2020/07/11/lost-dutchman-mine-arizona-legend/5409155002/

https://truewestmagazine.com/article/jacob-waltz-the-lost-dutchman/

https://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_lost_dutchman_mine_a_novel_and_the_truth

https://www.superstitionmountainmuseum.org/legend-lost-dutchman/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5N2Smh5-ye0

https://www.pbs.org/video/arizona-collectibles-lost-dutchman-mine-stone-maps/

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A young woman vanishes without a trace in 1936, leaving behind a trail of questions…and a possible connection to another case we’ve covered.

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https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/a-place-of-vanishing-finding-barbara-newhall-follett

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Happy Halloween, lovelies! Enjoy the latest round of spooky emails submitted by you guys.

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This one was actually in the news yesterday, so releasing it a few weeks earlier than planned.

Fourteen-year-old Lydia Perkins left her boyfriend’s house and never made it home. Nearly thirty years later, her disappearance still haunts Lexington.

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https://charleyproject.org/case/lydia-ann-perkins
https://www.missingkids.org/poster/ncmc/841272/1
https://namus.nij.ojp.gov/case/MP3993
https://www.wkyt.com/2022/10/19/mystery-lexington-teens-disappearance-still-haunts-family-decades-later/
https://www.lex18.com/news/covering-kentucky/lexington-teen-still-missing-after-23-years
https://www.lex18.com/news/lydia-perkins-family-remembers-their-loved-one-25-years-after-her-disappearance

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