Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery

In 19th-century Australia, ghostly figures began terrorizing communities, lurking in the shadows, frightening unsuspecting victims, and sometimes doing far worse than simply giving someone a scare.

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Sources:  

https://prov.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/files/media/provenance2014_waldron.pdf

https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/provenance-journal/provenance-2014/playing-ghost

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-21/ghost-hoaxing-on-victorias-goldfields/12571526

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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For centuries, a human skull has been kept inside an English manor house, with one very specific warning: never remove it. 

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Sources:  

https://heritage.dorsetcouncil.gov.uk/Monument/MDO24642

https://dorsetlife.co.uk/the-guttridge-files-bookshelf-skulduggery/

https://www.ww2.opcdorset.org/BettiscombeFiles/Bettiscombe.htm

https://screamingskulls.blogspot.com/2017/01/the-bettiscombe-skull.html

https://sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/bof/bof08.htm

https://www.thedicamillo.com/house/bettiscombe-manor/

https://mysterioustimes.co.uk/2026/08/26/the-screaming-skull-of-bettiscombe-who-was-she/

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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In the 1920s, Helene Adelaide Shelby had a heck of an idea: what if, instead of a typical detective interrogating suspects, we had a skeleton do it?

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Sources:  

https://bronzeicon.com/articles/66-the-voice-from-hell/

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/criminal-confession-skeleton-patent

https://hyperbate.fr/mort/

https://patents.google.com/patent/US1749090A/en

https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/e4/19/8a/b151c2156a3fb4/US1749090.pdf

https://bigthink.com/the-past/criminal-confession-skeleton/

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram 

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TRIGGER WARNING: sexual assault

Why didn't she report it? Why did she keep talking to him afterward? Why didn't she just leave?

We ask these questions about survivors of sexual assault all the time. But when even a conviction doesn't guarantee meaningful consequences, and the very things someone does to stay safe can be used to question their credibility, the answers become a lot more complicated. This week, we're examining what happens when survivors seek justice, and why so many never do.

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Sources:  

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/stanford-sexual-assault-case-victim-impact-statement-in-full

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chanel-miller-reads-her-entire-victim-impact-statement-she-wrote-to-address-brock-turner-60-minutes-2019-09-22/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/06/father-stanford-university-student-brock-turner-sexual-assault-statement

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/aug/26/brock-turner-stanford-sexual-assault-victim-testimony-laugh

https://www.cbsnews.com/colorado/news/austin-wilkerson-released/

https://www.illinoiscourtscommission.gov/case-details?id=121

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/christopher-belter-rape-probation-victim-mm/

https://bjs.ojp.gov/document/cv2_4.pdf

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12081761/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39548865/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cornell-university-rape-allegations-chi-phi-fraternity-details/

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/cornell-university-rape-case-jane-doe-police-interview-transcript/

https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/cornell-university-rape-case-district-attorney-campus-police-interview/

https://apnews.com/article/556db045600f8d5aa274f913bb5270a5

https://apnews.com/article/e5d3182af81fff6efc86d700516e171a

https://apnews.com/article/259e923dc2fb581f6565b0c4969c4397

https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/cornell-hires-ex-justice-dept-official-yates-review-rape-claims-response-2026-10-06/

https://www.cornellsun.com/article/2026/10/faq-edited-cornell-removes-statement-that-all-investigatory-information-was-shared-with-da-in-alleged-chi-phi-gang-rape

https://people.com/cornell-rape-case-man-accused-wants-letitia-james-removed-12164196

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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In 1324 Ireland, a wealthy woman finds herself at the center of accusations involving suspicious deaths, sorcery, demons, and a bishop who will stop at nothing to bring her down. 

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Sources:  

https://www.dib.ie/index.php/biography/kyteler-kettle-keyetler-dame-alice-a4617

https://www.dib.ie/biography/le-poer-arnold-a4734

https://www.historyireland.com/the-sorcery-trial-of-alice-kyteler-by-bernadette-williams/

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-anthology-of-british-medieval-latin/trial-of-alice-kyteler-on-a-charge-of-witchcraft/5FA4D52302F1D53D699A7E4018C5D35A

https://celt.ucc.ie/published/L100011/text150.html

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/irish-historical-studies/article/abs/select-document-florence-newtons-trial-for-witchcraft-cork-1661-sir-william-astons-transcript/F4548374C6140B71F50F8257D6315DBC

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/social-life-in-britain-from-the-conquest-to-the-reformation/superstitions-and-marvels/74D250392B86FF1B113346315563C69C

https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/narratives-of-sorcery-and-magic/9EEB481CC28816A0ABA84FE6DC35CDD4

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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NOTE: Some more adult language than usual is in this episode—watch out for kids listening or listening at work! Sue Logue was the first (and only) woman to be executed by electric chair in South Carolina. This is her story, also known as that time a mule kicked a calf and eight people died.   

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Sources:  

https://murderpedia.org/female.L/l/logue-sue.htm 

https://www.newportplaintalk.com/community/as_it_was_give_to_me/article_89640800-50e2-11e4-b625-5f88c9cecaa3.html

https://tompoland.net/how-a-mule-kick-killed-eight-people/

http://www.randomconnections.com/a-feud-a-mule-a-senator-a-potter-and-a-ghost-town-or-two-part-one/

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram 

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Carl Tanzler had a major crush on one of his patients—an obsession that did not end even after her death. 

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This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self.

Sources:  

https://www.kqed.org/pop/106807/meet-carl-von-cosel-the-man-who-slept-next-to-his-crushs-corpse-for-7-years

https://www.americanhauntingsink.com/voncosel

https://www.museumfacts.co.uk/carl-tanzler-and-elena-de-hoyos/

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/morbid-monday-the-macabre-romance-of-a-man-and-a-mummy

https://birdinflight.com/world/20200416-carl-tanzler.html

https://allthatsinteresting.com/carl-tanzler 

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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WMMM Podcast

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Fawn Marie Mountain disappeared from Claysburg, Pennsylvania in 2012. At the time of her disappearance, she was in a relationship with a reportedly abusive, controlling woman named Heather Dibert. The police investigation didn’t start until 2015, three years after she was last seen. This case is infuriating.

If you have any information at all related to Fawn Marie Mountain, even if you don’t know how useful it could be, please call the Pennsylvania State Police (814) 696-6100 or the Pennsylvania Crime Stoppers 1-800-4PA-TIPS.

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Sources:

https://wjactv.com/news/local/where-is-fawn-mountain-blair-county-womans-disappearance-gets-world-wide-attention

https://original.newsbreak.com/@shenba-1589610/2376803327577-the-disturbingly-bizarre-disappearance-of-pennsylvania-s-fawn-mountain

https://www.huntingdondailynews.com/daily_herald/news/finding-fawn-mountain-a-familys-search-for-answers/article_f0c60612-e3e0-5e2b-b15e-f76c7db49559.html

https://int-missing.fandom.com/wiki/Fawn_Mountain https://wjactv.com/news/local/altoona-family-asks-for-help-finding-missing-woman

https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/lkfdtb/runaway_or_murdered_by_a_controlling_partnerwhat/

https://www.wearecentralpa.com/wtaj-plus/have-you-seen-me/have-you-seen-me-case-1-fawn-mountain/

https://www.verywellmind.com/the-cycle-of-sexual-abuse-22460

https://wjactv.com/news/local/bedford-county-woman-sentenced-to-up-to-40-years-for-attempted-murder-in-arson-plot

https://www.altoonamirror.com/news/local-news/2025/12/bedford-duncansville-dibert-arson-for-hire-sentenced/

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.

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Ken McElroy was a bully. He spent most of his time making the rest of the residents of Skidmore, Missouri miserable. He was a known thief, rapist, arsonist, and child molester who was rarely punished for his crimes. One day, the people of Skidmore got tired of it. 

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This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self.

Sources:  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1982/09/03/fbi-closes-inquiry-into-the-killing-of-a-town-bully/2cad5c27-e59f-4242-8b0b-3e9b47ad5926/

http://nowiknow.com/the-unsolved-murder-of-ken-mcelroy/

https://allthatsinteresting.com/ken-mcelroy

https://medium.com/the-true-crime-edition/ken-mcelroy-killed-in-broad-daylight-fac2e3db5c6b

https://www.mentalfloss.com/article/574749/ken-mcelroy-murder-skidmore-missouri

https://patch.com/us/across-america/who-killed-ken-rex-mcelroy-town-keeps-its-secret-38-years 

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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Another round of listener stories today. Enjoy!

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Listener Emails

All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate. 

If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need. 

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WMMM Podcast

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Lexington, KY 40591

Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon!

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