Dr. Jon P. Higgins (@doctorjonpaul) and I discuss how they cope with society by laughing, finding radical joy, and becoming their authentic self.

Their influences:

1. Bayard Rustin

2. Audre Lorde

3. Tre’vell Anderson 

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Produced and edited by Stella Hartmann. Logo by Candice Ploy Goodman. Beginning and ending music by me, and mid-episode music by Tyler Fjeld.

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