On this week's podcast, Bob and co-host Kevin discuss how land managers are dealing with increased usage, and they ask the question: Is it reasonable for users to ever expect our park experiences to return to a time when crowding, and traffic was not a problem and when advanced reservations were almost unheard of? And, should our public land managers even try to get back to those times? Is what we're experiencing now the new "normal"? Also, a discussion of a hiker who had to be rescued. Twice. On the same hike, in two days. What went wrong and how you can avoid it. Hiker rescued twice: https://bit.ly/3IxaNeg This podcast sponsored by SpringsHomes.com Please consider becoming a patron of this podcast! Visit: https://www.patreon.com/hikingbob for more information Hiking Bob on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram and website Wild Westendorf on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and website Listen on Google Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music and Apple Podcasts Subscribe on Android