Catherine and Kim discuss gray area drinking, which is the vast space between rock bottom and drinking every now and again. This is the place where they found themselves hanging out for years and years, before they finally quit drinking for good. Thanksgiving was always the time of year when they would make excuses to get drunk and allow themselves to "live a little." @theweekendsoberpodcast

References:

https://www.thetemper.com/gray-area-drinking/

https://www.sobermomsquad.com

https://www.theluckiestclub.com

https://iamsober.com

https://curiouselixirs.com