We are joined by General Larry O. Spencer, former Vice Chief of Staff of the U. S. Air Force. He recounts his journey from being raised in Southeast Washington, D. C. to enlisting the U. S. Air Force, and eventually rising through the ranks to become one of only nine African Americans to wear four stars. In an organization that tends to favor pilots and aircrews, General Spencer's background as a support officer brings a different lens through which to look at the USAF and the use of airpower.